Oh No! More Challenges!

[Clam]

Huh? I didn't mean playing it in Lemmix would be too easy. These challenges are meant to be played in Lemmix (or DOSBox). What I meant was that Tame 1 would be far too easy if I gave you 2 diggers.

(also, my Tame 1 challenge is impossible on Amiga - consider that a large hint if you know the game well)

[Dullstar]

I'll try you're version of the levels, but I haven't been able to get builders to build high enough in the actual game.  By the way, I have some challenges for the original lemmings, which I will post soon.

[LemSteven]

Yay!  I finally found the new forums!  Here are a few of my favorite challenge solutions:

Tricky 11:  No builders, 100%
Tricky 20:  No builders, 100%
Taxing 15:  No builders, 100% (VERY hard)
Fun 22:  1 climber, 2 builders, 2 bashers, 1 miner, 1 digger, 100%

The last one is actually pretty easy to execute once you figure it out.

I've used Clam Spammer's Taxing 11 "ceiling route" on Tricky 7, saving 100%.  I suppose that in Taxing 11, the shorter time limit necessitates the use of the direct drop trick.

Other interesting ceiling routes I've found include Fun 20 and Crazy 17 (Just barely possible within the time limit).

[Dullstar]

Here are some good challenges...
If you know the level numbers, tell me so I can add them on here.

Fun 15:  Don't let your eyes deceive you: 
3 diggers, 8 builders, 2 bashers, 100%
Fun 16:  Don't do anything too hasty:
Builders, bashers, 2 diggers, 1 climber, 100%
Fun 20:  We are now at Lemcon 1:
Builders, 2 climbers, 2 bashers, 1 digger.

More later.
If a skill is listed, but no limit for it, you can use as many as the level gives you.

[Clam]

Taxing 15:  No builders, 100% (VERY hard)

I've heard of this one but haven't tried it myself. With 20 of each skill it certainly looks as though it is possible.

Fun 22:  1 climber, 2 builders, 2 bashers, 1 miner, 1 digger, 100%

Wow. If my solution is the same as yours, then that is a very nice puzzle.

I suppose that in Taxing 11, the shorter time limit necessitates the use of the direct drop trick.

It certainly does

Other interesting ceiling routes I've found include Fun 20 and Crazy 17 (Just barely possible within the time limit).

I've tried Crazy 17, but without success. I've also had a go at Mayhem 7 (same map as Fun 20) and it looks like the ceiling route might just work here as well (though probably not with 100%).
edit: 47/50 (94%) confirmed on Mayhem 7
edit2: Completed Crazy 17 ceiling route. 5 seconds to spare :cool:

Another interesting ceiling route is Taxing 12 - which leads to the 2 builder solution that I mentioned in the OP.
And at least one of my Tame challenges is a ceiling route (maybe two, depending on your definition of "ceiling route")

Fun ?:  Don't let your eyes deceive you: 
3 diggers, 8 builders, 2 bashers, 100%
Fun ?:  Don't do anything too hasty:
Builders, bashers, 2 diggers, 1 climber, 100%
Fun ?:  We are now at Lemcon 1:
Builders, 2 climbers, 2 bashers, 1 digger.

Those would be 15, 16 and 20. I have done the last two with builders only (see builders-only challenges), and I just did 15 with a digger to spare.

[Dullstar]

I put in a little bit of wiggle room there.  In LEMCON 1, I kept messing up on the stairs, so I decided the extra climber would be okay, since, it's still challenging.  And the diggers in 15 have uses.

FUN 15 DIGGER LIST
1.  Dig into the right side of the left pillar to corral the lemmings.
2.  Dig into the ground with the one lemming that isn't corralled with the others (assuming you did it right).  If the lemming is heading left, bash to stop the digging, if it's going right, use a builder to turn it around, then bash.
3.  Dig to release the corralled lemmings.

EDIT:  Can you set up some solution thing for the Tame Challenges, or at least provide a screenshot proving they are possible?

[Clam]

Here's another insane "fewer builders" problem (and a large improvement on previous efforts):
Taxing 26 - 100% with 5 builders.

And a few more fun ceiling routes:
Fun 15
Tricky 14
Crazy 8

All can be done with 100% saved (but very difficult to do so).

[Dullstar]

Tame Challenges
Tame 1:  2 bombers
Tame 2:  1 basher, 1 climber, 1 blocker, 1 bomber***
Tame 3:  9 blockers, 9 bombers***
Tame 4:  2 bombers, 5 builders, 1 digger
Tame 5:  5 bombers, 2 blockers***
Tame 6:  3 blockers, 8 bombers***
Tame 7:  1 climber, 1 basher, 1 builder, 2 miners, 1 digger, 100%
Tame 8:  2 bombers, 1 minute
Tame 9:  1 climber, 1 bomber, 1 basher
Tame 10: 1 builder, 3 blockers, 3 bombers***
Tame 11:  5 bombers, 1 basher
Tame 12:  Climbers (in case of stuck lemmings), 4 Bombers, 1 builder
Tame 13:  All skills as needed, 100%, no lemmings "lagging" lemmings
Tame 14:  Builders and Bashers ONLY, 100%
Tame 15:  3 Builders, 2 Miners, 1 Climber, 1 Digger, 100%
Tame 16:  1 Builder, 2 Bombers, 1 minute and 30 seconds
Tame 17:  2 bombers, 40 seconds
Tame 18:  3 blockers, 3 bombers, 1 miner, 1 basher***
Tame 19:  10 bombers
Tame 20:  2 bombers, 4 builders, release rate greater than or equal to 50

***For harder challenge, remove blockers.  In the case of Tame 3, this MAY make more bombers needed.

Versions:
Verified:  Lemmix, DOSBox
Bogus: None so far

[Clam]

#14 is already superseded by my challenge (8 builders)

I'm going to put all of my challenges into the OP so they don't get lost in the pages of this thread (I'll continue to post more as I find them). First, though, I will mention another challenge that I just completed after being unsuccessful before. A surprisingly difficult one:

Taxing 10 (and Tricky 6) - 100% with builders only.

And couple more ceiling routes:
Tricky 25 (Cascade). It can be done without floaters
Taxing 28 - 56/80 (70%)
Mayhem 10 - 67/75 (89%), room for improvement.

[Dullstar]

#14 is already superseded by my challenge (8 builders)

I don't know if you're talking about the challenges I submitted, but, Clam mer, the challenges I submitted are mainly for people who are just getting started with challenges.  I might make harder ones later.

[Clam]

OK. They are a bit heavy on bombers though.

Anyway, I've improved the Mayhem 10 ceiling route to 71/75, or 94%, and also found a 100% ceiling route on Tricky 1. This may be the last ceiling route I find, unfortunately. There's a couple more that would be viable with more generous time limits or % requirements (Wild 14 for example) but they seem to be out of reach.

[Dullstar]

Well...
Those were the best challenges I could think of, to tell the truth...

[Clam]

Here's another insane one.

Tricky 28 - 98% with no bombers, bashers, miners or diggers. In other words, without destroying the terrain.

The trick will be obvious to some of you (others will tell me it's clearly impossible ), but that last 1% takes a lot of effort.

[Dullstar]

I don't get this.  Can you post some help in this thread I started?

Oh No! More Challenges!:  Help

[DragonsLover]

Two more challenges (hope it's not already done) :

Crazy 18 - 100% (Hard, but possible)
Crazy 19 - 100% (Once you find the way, it's a piece of cake)