Level Design Contest #28 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

[kaywhyn]

All rightie, finally my videos showing my solutions to all the contest entries are up

Part 1 (Lix entries) - https://youtu.be/rhyW7LBLzYA

Part 2 (NL Rule 1) - https://youtu.be/-vqL_zhtInI

Part 3 (NL Rule 2) - https://youtu.be/-vqL_zhtInI

Part 4 (NL Rule 3) - https://youtu.be/anTxh8VYh1o

Part 5 (my levels) - https://youtu.be/ZVGbWVzDyvM

Also attached my full replay collection here again, as well as the intended solutions to my levels

[kaywhyn]

Being the math person and huge lover of numbers that I am and R3 being the "miniature" rule, I decided to collect some stats for the R3 levels See attached file

In summary, for NL everyone made a 160 x 100 level except for Kingshadow, whose level is instead 128 x 90. For Lix, geoo's is 192 x 192, while Simon's is 320 x 200, which is the maximum allowed in either direction for that engine, and the dimensions are doubled that of NL's because of high-res.

In terms of lemming count, geoo, Niesch, and myself are all tied with 9, the maximum allowed for this ruleset, though Niesch's is an 8-lemming level where you can get a 9th with the cloner skill

Finally, in terms of the maximum amount of skills you can assign/use, Armani, Icho, and Niesch are all tied with 9, though once again in Niesch's case there are 8 skills you can assign + 1 pickup

Not shown in the table, but out of all the R3's, my R3 is also the shortest in terms of solve time, where mine is pretty much the only one that can be solved in under 30 seconds (about 28 seconds or so), with a close second by Niesch, which, even with the correct RR fiddling to do the building ASAP, would still finish a little over 30 seconds.

[Simon]

My first NL replays. Amazed how much puzzle potential the shimmier offers, even in the miniatures.

My L-Team solution has a shimmier left over, but still feels reasonable. Everything else looks as if it's 100 % intended.

kaywhyn's videos: Thanks! Gentle Slope is intended, ξ is a minor variant and perfectly acceptable.

Spoiler: ξ

Near the exit, your path makes you use more jumpers than the intended path. I gave infinite jumpers because I didn't want the solution to hinge on such details.

Correct, the name ξ comes from the miner's path. Early versions had the miner start from the top right, and I mirrorerd the entire level to fit the title.

-- Simon

[NieSch]

My L-Team solution has a shimmier left over, but still feels reasonable. Everything else looks as if it's 100 % intended.
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You also could have a climber left over since the first climber you assigned wasn't necessary. Well done!

I consider it a backroute so I updated the level to V10.

[IchoTolot]

Will put up the voting topic soon.

[geoo]

I didn't have much time to play through the levels, but at least I managed to finish all of the miniatures and half of the Rule 1 levels.
I've especially liked the levels focused around shimmiers so far!

As for the solutions to my levels, everyone solved Fast Food Forest the intended way.
For Frog Clog, nobody has the intended solution, but all parts of my intended solution are featured in someone's solution. I'm happy to leave this level a bit more open-ended, as I also don't see any elegant fixes. It wasn't meant to be a hard level.
For Underground Club, good find there, kaywhyn, I'm surprised we all missed that! Your solution still features the part of the idea that I care most about, so I might just leave it in.

[kaywhyn]

@geoo

Your solutions to my R1 and R3 are both intended. Nice job!

@Simon

Thanks for confirming my solutions are intended/acceptable even though it was long after I knew they were after checking Icho's video Yes, I'm well aware I made my solution to your R1 messier than it needed to be, especially around the exit area

[NieSch]

@geoo: Cool solution to the L-team level. Not what I intended but perfectly fine.