[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]

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MASTER-88

Okay. My nearly 20h progress a todays. Its sadly ended level 14. I got totally Stuck next levels 15+. So i´ll make next videos random order.

Cunning level 9-12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2qoB4Kcb-E&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Cunnings level 13 & 14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWYym4aC4hk&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

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I spend 5 hours level 15, but not make any serious completion. How ever i save 9/10 with my best attempt, its not completed level. I finally tired with this. Level 16 was even more crazier, there have to be some hidden trick, i might never are see before. I still got find one quite awesome cloner/miner/bomber combination trick, but its not help me enought here. Im not got any potential attempt with this level its seems just insane 1 cloner, 1,climber, 2 miner and 1 bomber and only two builders and those need have to be over the water gap. I got same feeling when i work Chaos 28, its pretty hopless

This point cunning mode start goes really crazy. Might make level completions one by one and random order because im not really care stuck each level 5-10 hours.

That was nice 20 hours Cranium marathon a today. Have to keep rest next. Be back later. Hope i got some frehs ideas.

Its fact lemmings has hundreds tricks. I learn many new which very rarery need any gameplay when i work my own pack and look Armani replays. I´ll sure i still missed some important tricks.
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I'm curious of your Cloner/Miner/Bomber trick that you've found.  It might be that I rearrange some levels between Cunning and Chaos come 1.05 on top of the fixes.

MASTER-88

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Here is trick. You are allowed miner to little bit in midair when you correct timing cloner and then bomber, this was only way which allow me turn this climber to back, not help me later levels look you can see I´ll post this replay

BTW. You ask me youtube did you forget post music zip Cunning 13. This look im not are load this theme. Even i am load buch of your music when i load your large zip. How ever at least 2 themes is missing. I checkout my old folders too, but yeah at least those two themes are missing.
-Passagae
-Prophecy 1 (this theme is used at least challenge level Angels fear.

If you can just PM me or load music zip. I could load those missing themes.

BTW
Here is this trick you ask me show. That was at least news to me (accident find), when i just foucs turn that climber to back. How ever im not really think you will need it often or its ruin your chaos levels. Its might give 1-2 pixels extra heights and help turn climber when you very rarery need it. Like you will see in replay its not help me very much later level.




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Crane

Dang - sorry about that.  Here are the missing tracks.


MASTER-88

I think this is best possible what i can do Cunning 16

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Save 29/30 another 4-5 hours attempts a today, i cannot make it any better and save 2nd bomber. I think its time to go forward and skip this level at this point. I attempt total 8 hours total several variations and theorys, but cannot figured out that any better

Okay i´ll post my best attempt zip and go for move next level. There is 2 theory: I overlook some simple things very badly or there is trick what i didn´t know. ???

How ever i was glad i got find that nice trick yesterday, even its was pointless here. :laugh:
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MASTER-88

At least finally beat Cunning 15 S.C.R.O.O.G.E. This level also take me embarrassed long to beat. I look 4 hours few days ago and with this morning i decide i´ll beat it, what ever its will requires. Only 4 and half hours attempts. Total 8 hours+. Its longer than most levels i completed. Avaraga hard level take me some 2-3 hours around. Example Chaos 19 JAILBREAK. Casual leveles take usually 40-90 minutes to solved.  But here is level i am spend 12 hours+ and never find intention solution. Example Chaos 28. And my very hard backroute not work anymore 1:04 version.

15/30 Cunning Levels completed. 1:04 version.

ASK little question abotu cunning 16 under spoiler tag.

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BTW is this intention you are add 2 bombers cunning 16, even you are allowed lost 1, this level are drained a lot my energy what ever way i look i´ll need 2 bombers reaching heights.

Here is completion solution Cunning 15. One harder level at this point game. Im not reach talisman, but i think i have to time things little bit better and will be reach it later when i focus more. Damn this level was complicated.

EDIT.
Cunning 28 Wishing Well (okay this is surely backroute) But its quite nice.

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I bugged some metals so well, how ever its still take me all tools

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Crane

Cunning 28 is a backroute, but looks like it can be fixed if I'm more careful with the steel there.  Well done in completing Cunning.  I look forward to seeing all of the videos on YouTube soon!

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It was intended to give 2 Bombers on Cunning 16, both to look symmetric in the tools you are given and also to see if you, the player, are paying attention!  An earlier level in Curious has 20 Bombers, but you have to save 100%... a classic Mayhem trick!

MASTER-88

Hey thanks explains Cunning 16.

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Thats look i have to look this level better. I´ll make it later. At this point my all ideas beat this level are totally drained empty.

Few more cunnings completions
Level 18 Crunsh Time (okay im not trying talisman solutions) Both might be very different than my completion solution
Level 19 Shim-Shimminy Shim Shimminy
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Thats was one my favorite level, not sure is my solution intented, but yeah thats way work well too

Level 26 Prize Catch (completion only) I see here is talisman too. Have to look those talisman solutions later, its quickly look quite difficult one.

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Migth requires some group controlls manipulations


EDIT
Level 17 Nemesis (Completion solutions)

This is last level i´ll play with today. Very tired rightnow.

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Luckily that was easy board, i solved it very quickly compred other boards, its might not intention route, but i think this board easily give several completion ways IMO

Also posted videos youtube expect level 26. I´ll post it later. I think i´ll need sleep little bit. Level 15 & 16 really drain my brain powers.


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MASTER-88

Two "simple" levels completion todays

Cunning 21 Thats it!?? & 22 Pipe Burst

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Im not work level 20 yet, tried it in yesterdays and this level seems hard and will requires more research, so i´ll be back it later. Also Cunning 16 is still forver progrerss, this level really not give me any ideas. Other levels are played order to order


Here is also youtube version both levels
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Crane

17, 19, 21, 22 and 26 are all backroutes.  Granted, Cunning 21 is a little more open-ended than the other levels, but I will make some minor fixes.

MASTER-88

I´ll see i am figured a lot backroutes. I think level 27 is also non intention route.

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27 was quite fun level and quite complicated, take me 90 minutes to solved. How ever i think your intention beat this level is way different than my way.

Here is youtube video 26 & 27 both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCUjMfwAYg&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

And level 27 zip

I just figured out i am beat most cunning 1:04 version levels. Some are remains yet. I think this 16 might my forever progress though. ;P
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MASTER-88

Cunning levels 24 & 25
24 Heaven and Earth
25 Cloning Vats

Completion solution in youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kac4URFok2A&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Level 24 Heaven and Earth
Spoiler
Very fun and simple level, i think this route is also intention, i´ll wonder if this is backroute. I use all tools, all time and all spaces, this level was fun and simple

Level 25 Cloning Vats
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One my personal favorite level. Its not too hard, not too easy, just take some plannings. Not sure is this intention route, i think its at least are close intention one. How ever i never need use Fencer.

I´ll post replay zips too if crane have to fix his pack. I am pretty surprise i am got find that much backroutes over again. I did same type finds when i play Chaos mode 1:01 version.

No much cunning levels remains 20, 23 & 30

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Level 20 (Spend 45 minutes attempts yesterday. This level seems very hard. I´ll need deeper reserach with this board. maybe even lemming editor training.
Level 23 (Few attempts yesterday) Not perfectly figured this starting. Very weird toolbox skills, will requires deeper research
Level 30 (Few attempts, this level seems brutal)


And here is zips. Be right back. Great pack Crane. :thumbsup:

EDIT:
Cunning 29 Short Changed completion solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HuEi63F6PA&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

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I loved this level, there is a lot my favorite tricks which i also used my own packs, im not aimed talisman with this time, but i´ll definitely give shot with later.
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MASTER-88

Oh my God. I am completely idiot. :XD: Okay Cunning 16 solved.

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That was so damn easy, i over look all time and spend 9 hours waste time. Okay i´ll going back and look again. I take few beers and yeah its look this really help me and its take me only 15 minutes. I am extrmely ashamed rightnow. Yes i am sometimes idiot. This was hilarious. Spending 9 hours level 15 not was that embarassed, this level was really hard, i think this level 16 might one easier level to executed, but i think too hard ways, i just forget most simple way and i think its might help when you read level name correct. :forehead:

Youtube solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_zVe1c_s94&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

I think i have check out Chaos 28 next. I think i am overlooked this level as well so much.

Spoiler
Cunning 15 was indeed very hard level, its not bad i spend 8-9 hours with this, because this level was complicated like hell. But Cunning 16 was one easier

How ever 3 Levels remains Cunnings yet. 20, 23 & 30.
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Crane

Heh, I'm glad you managed to solve Cunning 16 at last!  Levels are being patched nicely for 1.05 too!  You planning to go through the Challenge rank or Cute and Curious for sake of completion?  Some of the talismans are a little tough!