[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]

Started by Crane, May 28, 2023, 02:13:11 AM

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Crane

v1.03 has been released.  A lot of backroute fixes in this one.  Get the latest version from the first post of this topic.

MASTER-88

Chaos 20 Hell Challenger

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No sure is that backroute, but its not are talisman solution, so i think its not matter very much back route or not. How ever 1 miner remain. Not sure is this Crane intention or not, but how ever i need all 5 minutes and all jumpers, might look talisman solutions later. This is quite fun level to play so i´ll keep progress look it more later ;)

I still play 1:01 version because i have several levels remain. I´ll always target find backroutes. How ever its strated be "impossible" soon.  At this point Crane levels start be really hard.

I am still stuck Chaos 26. That was one first chaos level i played and im not are completed it yet. I am spend at least good 10 hours with this level and im not even figured out any serious idea completed it. I think i am miss some neolemmings trick or somethings. :P This level really "kidding me":D

EDIT:
Chaos 20 Hell Challenger (silver talisman) sub 4 minutes (3:53)

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Its actually very similar as my completion solution, but i timed all much better

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Chaos 20 Hell Challenger (bronze talisman) jumper remain
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Pretty similar. Will requires extra miner and little bit different lock system. That was pretty time precise one, even more than silver IMO
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Chaos 19 JAILBREAK! (gold talisman solution) :thumbsup:

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Not sure Crane intention route in this level. How ever that was one coolest level entire pack IMO and REALLY COMPLICATED one. I still let some skills remain Never need floater and also extra builder remain This might be non intention route, but this level is huge and yeah it was tough/complicated one. This time limit caused me some serious troubles, luckily that was barely enought, its definitely not hardest level, but probably one most laborious level. Its not noobfriendly level, but i personally liked this type levels, i am pretty good with this type levels myself.
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Crane

The solutions aren't intended, but a lot of the required elements are there, so it should be easily patched and easy enough for you to re-solve - good work!

MASTER-88

Quote from: Crane on July 06, 2023, 12:46:32 PM
The solutions aren't intended, but a lot of the required elements are there, so it should be easily patched and easy enough for you to re-solve - good work!

Okay. That nice to know. And thanks.:)

Chaos 12 Chilly disposition

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LOL i just totally overlook that level all time when i attempt it before and i never completed. Okay that was extremely easy strategy when i finally figured it out. Its take me embarrassed long to solved. Not sure is this backroute or not, im not really need climber here. I used blocker cancel digger, but it was more time saver, probably not need it, there is quite much enought time IMO

Most 1:01 version Chaos levels are completed. Few hardest and probably some easier levels are remain yet. Have to count later. :P
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Crane

Bit of a backroute unfortunately - a digger there is not supposed to be successful, but good job nonetheless.

MASTER-88

I am sorry Crane. I think you have to make 1:04 version yet.;P

I totally broke this level :evil:
Chaos 25 Immortal

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Thats definitely backroute, not need worry about zombie guys
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Crane

Don't worry - version 1.04 is planned!  A couple of earlier levels got fixes and adjustments too.

Crane

v1.04 has been released!  Find the updated link here on the first post.

Changelog:
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- Cute: The positions of Cute 9: "The needs of the few" and Cute 13: "Dream Eater" have been swapped.
- Cute 24: "Printing Press" - some graphical updates.
- Curious: The positions of Cute 18: "Stop, Look and Listen" and Cute 23: "Glide Slope" have been swapped.
- Curious 7: "The Long Way 'Round" - time limit increased from 2 minutes to 3; new bronze talisman added for completing in under 2 minutes.
- Curious 9: "Reverse Engineer" - new gold talisman.
- Curious 17: "Island Hopping" - backroutes fixed.
- Curious 21: "Going Down . . . . ." - bronze talisman upgraded to silver talisman and requirement tightened from 5 bashers to 4.
- Cunning 13: "Compression Method 2" - some graphical updates; new gold talisman.
- Chaos 12: "Chilly Disposition" - backroutes fixed.
- Chaos 19: "JAILBBEAK!" - backroutes fixed.
- Chaos 20: "Hell's Challenger" - talismans removed; new toolset.
- Chaos 23: "Thanatos Gambit" - map error fixed (compressor trap was too low).
- Chaos 24: "Halls of Reflection" - minor terrain change to reduce the precision required.
- Chaos 25: "Immortal" - backroutes fixed; builders increased from 3 to 5.

MASTER-88

Finally load 1:04 version. Let see how many my old replays (1:01) will work here?

I attempts first time Cunning mode levels a today (spend most of time/hours on Chaos mode). (im not are perfect focus mode, so my attempts was pretty lazy) But i quickly notice thos levels are nearly as hard as some Chaos mode levels IMO. Challenge mode is not that hard for me, because i am mastered those old boards quite well when i work SNES, Oh no more lemmings & Genesis solutions, most those old boards are quite familiar for me because spend time 20-30 years with those boards.

How ever Crane pack is one best pack i ever played. I liked those retro style and very high challenge. Yeah compelted this pack will take easily years. So i think this will be my end time job.

I am extremely intereste Chaos 28  Denial. I spend with this level 12 hours+ with 1:01 version and when i finally completed it, that was backroute. This board is simply genius IMO. 1:04 are blocked my backroute i see. So its time to try find new one or intention one.

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Crane

Heh, some of the later Cunning levels are hard, while Challenge is a break from things and is its own mini-game.  Good luck on Chaos 28!

MASTER-88

Some 1:04 Chaos solutions. I think those strated goes pretty much inention route rightnow. I also completed several Cunning levels. Might post replays later.

Level 17 Diviside Action

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Much harder with this time. I think its might intention one

Level 19 JAILBREAK!

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New route was frustrating like hell IMO. Okay im not pick up talisman here, i have some ideas how this talisman solution could work. I lost Athlete lemmings at end. I think this idea pick up talisman is let Athlete lemming climping up at end, but its will requires a lot correct timings elsewehere Its till let only around 20 seconds waste time, its will be really hard timed that much better. How ever pretty glad to completed this level. Yes its take me 2 hours.

Level 24 Hall of Reflections

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IIRC i saw this climber trick before so this new version level not really give me a lot those troubles

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Cunning Mode levels 1-8 recorded on youtube.
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Crane

Divisive Action
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Backroute unfortunately, but good find.  I'm going to have to think a little bit with that one, but I think it's as simple as reducing the timer to 2 minutes.

JAILBREAK!
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Acceptable.  My intended solution was proving impossible to enforce, but some trickery allowed you to save an extra lemming with it, so it became the gold talisman.

Halls of Reflection
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Intended.  Cunning 4 introduces you to the trick, and here you have to remember it in a more complex setting.

I dare say... don't knock the Challenge levels!  25-30 are quite tough!

MASTER-88

Might be backroute. Cunning 13 Compression Method 2

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Im not use any climber.s Also pick up gold talisman which was sub 40 skills, i did it under 30 skills That was tough one. Im not even figured out where you will need use climbers here?

How ever that was hardest cunning level at this point game. I am played those cunning levels mostly order to order. I´ll post more cunning videos youtube later.  Let see did i figured other backroutes.

Just figured out simple thing.
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Compression mehtod 2 have 4 entrance and 80 lemmings. You can save one entrance used climbers. How ever this might be pretty unique find  completed this level without any climbers. That take a lot time to make, IIRC over 2 hours
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Crane

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That is a backroute, but I can't really stop it.  Best I can do is change the talisman to "no more than 11 builders" and have the solution open-ended