[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Cranium (150 levels) [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]

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MASTER-88

JES JES Finally my another masterwork are done. Chaos 13 Cliffside Hostel (Please Crane if this not your intention, please don´t patch it) This is way too genius. I think i´ll list this your pack TOP 3 hardest level at this point.

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THIS LEVEL WAS HARD LIKE HELL plan at also executed.At this point i´ll count it TOP 3 hardest level list i every played. Two other are Chaos 26 & 28. 27 is trick is extremely hard figured out, but its not otherwise too hard executed. Its nothing compared Cliffside Hostel or Denial.

This level timings aim are very Close Denial solution. They are so freaking precise. No errors marginal allowed.

How long this take me (I count 6 & half hours attempts with tonight) I was so scared at end, because i have to motofine everythings perfect and scare i miss some. Thanks god i got all work finally.

This solution was super genius. Im not is that intention, but please Crane keep this and don´t patch this., i practice those tricks a lot that first tricks i used are never show even advance lemmings training pack. Its was my accident find week ago. Yeah always knew its will work miner and basher, but yeah its work fencer too.

BTW Look my fucking timings. This solution was so freaking mad. I am so happy. As happy as when i got beat Denial.

Here is video and zip
Chaos 13 Cliffside Hostel completion solution. I´ll hope its intented or its wil l stay alternate solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KWbwo-CVEg

Im not want touch that level anymore. But this completion make me super happy. I was close to freaking out when i complted it.  :lem-shocked:

EDIT:***************
My Cliffside Hostel solution will stay 1.05 version. I just see Crane intention solution, its completely very different, but technically very genius one too. Hard to say which are harder one, but both are way different solutions. Though both used all tools and a lot tricks.
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MASTER-88

Sadge we cannot fix Chaos 22 hallowed grounds., Yeah its techincally impossible, because there is no theory way make it and block backroutes. Let see which is Crane plan/visions here??

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He might keep current solution alive or he might replace it with new level, this level is impossible to fix

Divisive Action & Splashdown will be some really brutal next time. Also Dropship 12. I´ll give up Crane latest proto Dropship 12. That was simply too hard for me.. But yeah that take also some several protos to fix correct.

We are worked Crane levels to hard. And luckily most are fixable, even its sometimes took a lot work and frustratings.

I loved that job are Crane testplayer. Crane pack is always are my personal favorite.

Be right back. Crane will give more informations later. We are quite close 1:05. ;)
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MASTER-88

Damn sorry Crane. I forget some spoiler tags. My bad.  :-[ But how ever im not revela those new levels.

I´ll use spoiler tags when i think i need those. I think that was my fault too. Luckily its could be fixed. But im not revela too much. Yes i´ll fix my post. Sorry Crane.

EDIT:
What you ask me hiiden there under spoiler tags? Just i think im not revela too much. At least 1.05 version will be secret.

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MASTER-88

Dman i am fucking drunk right now. I think i have to erased some?

Did this Ok im post your completion solutions in yotube. (I´ll also make its less spoil as i can) Used minimal reveal picture.

This look i am used spoiler tags, What heck i am forget under spoiler tags?
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MASTER-88

BTW Crane. This is yout topic you can erased all my unwanted post here. Its not matter much. Im not even know what i did wrong? but its might culture difference. I am sorry about this. Np other words. As far as i thin youtube videos is also okay? Righht? What to heck i do wrong? Tell me?

Im not want make your angry or sad. I´ll be glad we are making through those all progress.
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MASTER-88

No problem.

Here is final 1.04 version Chaos level completed.
Level 25 Immortal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGlKjZbhWR8

Spoiler
Might be backroute, but not cheap like 1.01 version. How ever that was still easy level, only 15 minutes to solved

1.04 version is now completed succesfully. All 30 Chaos levels. Okay Challenge 29 is remain yet. And im not are run through all cute mode replays 1.04 version. Though play all those through 1.01 version.

I´ll might look some Crane 1.05 proto levels yet, if we could fix those routes before 1.05 version will be released.
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Crane

So a couple of Chaos levels are currently broken and I'm trying to think how to patch or redesign them.  It's a little frustrating, but that's the nature of things sometimes.

MASTER-88

QuoteSo a couple of Chaos levels are currently broken and I'm trying to think how to patch or redesign them.  It's a little frustrating, but that's the nature of things sometimes.

Is there several levels broken?

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I just know only Hallowed Ground, that seems impossible patch my backroute without breaking your intention. We test that Small problem last time with new toolsets? Is that still broken? did i can see your 1.04 version intention solution Small problem? Curious to see what is that your point here? i counted that your last proto with old tool sets was pixel perfect and 1.04 version solution give me 1-2 pixel error marginal.

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We fixed Immortal twice. My 1.04 version backroute was quite cheap, but two last was better and i´ll guess that latest version was close your intented, how ever 1 builder remain

Good luck. Yes i´ll imganine that some frustratings.
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MASTER-88

We hardly work Crane pack. Good news one broken level is now perfectly fixed, even its take a tons time and have to test different tool sets. Finally got done perfect level which make Crane happy.

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Thats fact i am extremely good test player and we are "sadge" got find so many other backroutes nearly everywhere. I am very good with my job and extremely efficient test player, my system with test player are also look levels cheaper routes, most test players forget test those ones and focus more other routes.

When 1.05 is ready. Its will be extremely good/strong version. Even its take that what its take. Just a lot frustrations and time. I´ll hope im not make Crane too mad. Its my testplayer job. Im not are good guy. I am ruthless asshole who break levels all times.

My intention is still good. If im not figured out those backroutes, someone else will be figured out then later. I´ll make sure, 1.05 version will be really strong and very hardly improve.

Current backroutes/possible backroutes we have to solved:

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Chaos 1 SUNSOFT Swindle (One backroute is fixed. Im not are got respond about my newest
Chaos 7 Don´t Bother (Im not are got respond yet
Chaos 9 Overflow very cheap way again, lucikly its easy to fix i think.
Chaos 11 Stoncrest bay (two different way make all saved in one goal and both was different goal. This techinically could be easily fixed used one goal rules, but Crane currently don´t want use that
Chaos 22 Hallowed Ground (Currently broken level) Crane have to make desing again. My backroute is simply way too strong even used pick ups.
Chaos 25 Immortal (im not are got respond yet) I think my newest route have to be close intention.

I´ll Wish good luck. ;)
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MASTER-88

Good Job Crane. We finally Patched your pack perfectly. Its still little risk some backroutes will still stay. At least in Chaos mode, this risk is very minimal anymore. At least we fix all major backroutes. So i´ll glad with this.

We wait 1.05 version and this update will be huge. I am glad im help Crane make his own pack most extreme. We spend over 60 hours to Chaos mode patch some levels.

I´ll more focus my own pack, thanks god im not have those themes like Crane, so i´ll usually allow more backroutes myself. Backroutes always piss me off too. I´ll only can imagine Crane feeling when i broke his level like mad. :devil:

I´ll hope this was worth it. Crane pack is one most awesome entire site. I´ll also like Crane Style. Most levels are old school style and i´ll personally liked this style. I´ll usually use Clear Physic mode play levels, so im not enjoy special grapich or ETC.... Expect replays. Its only way solved Extrme levels.
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Crane

Thank you so much for the help MASTER-88, and I'm glad I inspired you!  Version 1.05 has been released!  Find the updated links and downloads on the first post (the music ZIP has had some missing files added - let me know if I forgot any).

MASTER-88

Quote from: Crane on September 30, 2023, 05:28:21 AM
Thank you so much for the help MASTER-88, and I'm glad I inspired you!  Version 1.05 has been released!  Find the updated links and downloads on the first post (the music ZIP has had some missing files added - let me know if I forgot any).

Nice job. I loaded your new version. That progress we did was insane. I´ll happy we did it, even its tired and frustrated we both.

I think i did use my all own lemmings skills your pack. How ever backroute risk is still possible. At least i not have ideas anymore about Chaos modes. I´ll glad you got your pack just that awesome. Good work.

EDIT

I see you did little typo your fix list

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Chaos 12: "Chilly Disposition" - backroutes fixed.  Time reduced from 5 minutes to 4 minutes. I think you set time limit Stonecrest Bay 5 to 4 minutes. Chilly Dispostion is still 1 min 30 right
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Crane

Oh whoops, yes that time limit reduction applies to Stonecrest Bay.