Tetris Attack

[tseug]

[Tetris Attack Thread]

Here are my first levels (4): hmmmm pack

EDIT: I consider simultaneous swapping evil... so don't do it. :winktounge:

[Proxima]

Um........ I can't help but notice that three of those are exact copies of the original game's 5.6, 6.7 and 6.8.  :huh2:

[tseug]

Those are copied from the version on my calculator. I was wondering if it was a total rip.... looks like it is. Now I'll actually make some real levels.

EDIT: Which one is 6.8? Isu said it was one of the hardest in the game. I'm guessing 03, I liked that one.

[Proxima]

Ah, no, see, Isu meant 6.8 of the extra set of levels; I meant that your level 03 is identical to 6.8 of the original set of levels. Still a great level, but.... I can't compare the two, since I haven't got that far with the extras yet; just started playing them today.

[chaos_defrost]

Last time I played the extras, either 6-7 or 6-8 gave me a LOT of problems.

It was the one with the tall tower. It was both shades of blue, purple, and yellow. Not 6-9, it was either 6-7 or 6-8.

[tseug]

Ah I see. Could someone put 6-8 extra into a single level? I want to give it a try. :wink:

[Proxima]

Here you go

(I've completed up to 3.3 on the extra levels now [EDIT: completed all of worlds 1 to 3], but I skipped ahead to reach this one. The colours are blue, cyan, purple, red and green but no yellow, so Insane Steve might just have remembered wrongly, or he might not have been describing this level.......)

[Isu]

Ah, now that was Not the level I was referring to. I was referring to This 6-08.

Because 6-07 extra is also a pain, I included a version of it in the zip.

Both levels were on the Gameboy Version

[Proxima]

Ah -- so the extra levels on the ROM version aren't the same as the Gameboy ones? Are they all different or just a few?

[Isu]

I can't really say without doing a full analysis, but at least I know that the first level on both versions are the same :winktounge:

[tseug]

WOW Isu that looks.... horrible. Just looking at it I can tell that it has a LOT of branches...

EDIT: I'm writing an analyzer. (for making levels, I want to solve 6-8 by myself :winktounge:)

[chaos_defrost]

The level in Isu's avatar looks almost exactly like 6-9 in the SNES version. One of the 6-9s, at least.

I remember the colors, so it must have been 6-7 extra that kills me. Also, as a child, 6-4 (1st set) gave me a LOT of problems.

Ya, 6-8 took about 5 minutes for me, but I can definitely see how it'd be hard, especially given the layout and the number of solutions that are very close to working but are nothing like the correct one.

Anyways, back to the Hubris set. I've cleared all but 36 and 40 (Well, 37 required a move during a move for me, so I think I solved that one in an unintended way). Seriously, 40 is kind of frustrating -- I've logged about 40 minutes on it now and nothing. The number of "one off" solutions I've found... well, that and about 70% of the leads I've tried getting stopped by accidental clears. Really, it's so easy to make clears you don't want to with that layout.

Of course, I do applaud a stage that stumps me for so long -- I think maybe 3 puzzles total in the original Tetris Attack took me longer than 40 minutes of solve time. And 36 is kind of getting up there, also. Seriously, for two puzzles that seem like there's not a lot to try, they're proving quite a difficult task for me. I'm overall quite impressed with Nuntar's set of puzzles -- a lot of them are the quality of the puzzles in the actual game.

Anyways, I've decided to start my own set of 60 puzzles... I'm only using 3 of the 5 puzzles I uploaded as a demo, but I don't know how long they'll take.

[Proxima]

Anyways, back to the Hubris set. I've cleared all but 36 and 40 (Well, 37 required a move during a move for me, so I think I solved that one in an unintended way). Seriously, 40 is kind of frustrating -- I've logged about 40 minutes on it now and nothing. The number of "one off" solutions I've found... well, that and about 70% of the leads I've tried getting stopped by accidental clears. Really, it's so easy to make clears you don't want to with that layout.

Of course, I do applaud a stage that stumps me for so long -- I think maybe 3 puzzles total in the original Tetris Attack took me longer than 40 minutes of solve time. And 36 is kind of getting up there, also. Seriously, for two puzzles that seem like there's not a lot to try, they're proving quite a difficult task for me. I'm overall quite impressed with Nuntar's set of puzzles -- a lot of them are the quality of the puzzles in the actual game.

Well, it heartens me to know I've managed to stump you so well. Yes, 40 is very frustrating, but I had a lot of work to do on this one to prevent backroutes, which is why there are so many accidental clears. I think what both of these levels have in common is that each has a sort of trick or twist that you're not likely to stumble on by accident, and that isn't used in any of the original levels, so that could explain why you're finding 36 a lot harder than we both expected.

Can you tell me how you did #37? You might nonetheless be close to the actual solution.

[chaos_defrost]

36: 13:31 (After a hint that my main idea for the stage was completely off)
+37: 15:21
*40: 37:43

36 was the kind of solution I was expecting for the level. Out of curiousity, can you swap the heart and star on the column's second-from-top row and check to see if there's multiple solutions to the level?

So... intended route on 37 and 40 left.

[Isu]

I've solved a few more of Nuntars levels! :mikecool:
1: 0:20
2: 0:15
3: 0:06
4: 0:21
5: 0:17
6: 1:08
7: 1:35 (wrong solution though)
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8: 11:12
9: 2:39
10: 0:20
11: 0:45
12: 0:38
13:
14: 2:37
15: 0:17
16: 0:42
17: 0:44
18: 1:08
19: 0:56
20: 0:19
21: 1:26
22: 0:22 (meh, easy)
23: 7:41
24: 0:44
25: 0:56

So I'm about halfway through. Progress is slow at the moment, and I still need to go back and solve #8, #9, #13 and #14, and find the intended answers to #7 and #11. I accidentally solved #21, just by moving things around. I also found #15, unusually easy, I'd say it was way easier than #14, so is it a backroute? I don't think it is...