[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]

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Armani

My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot

Whole pack completed! 8-)

Replays attached and I expect at least some more intended rank 5 solutions. A couple still feel backrouty though.

Armani

half intended half not :XD: :XD:

Spoiler

5 01~5 05 intended
(5 04 Rhythmical is an acceptable variant! You found the exactly same solution to josh. :laugh: Have a look at the attached replay of mine ;))
5 06 RefleXion: Saving the leftmost glider lemming should be the most challenging thing about this level! I added an obstacle so now it's harder to save that lemming ;)
5 07~5 10 intended
5 11 Lost in an Ice Cave: You are supposed to invest a miner and a basher at the exit area to release the crowd! I didn't notice that one miner is enough to do so..
5 13 System Malfunction: You got the one of the two main tricks! :laugh: I think this fix is enough to enforce the another one.
5 14 BlockChain Company Revisited: acceptable ;)
5 15 Simulation FARO: Your solution is cool! But I want you to use both exits :laugh:
5 16 Facade of Indifference: Almost intended. You only need to find another way to send the slider lemming to the top part ;) Also the intended solution contain the crowd a bit differently.
5 17 Forgive Us: Wow amazing solution! But I still want you to use every part of the level. So here's the fix!
5 18 One Lemming to Rule Them All: 90%+ intended :thumbsup: You only need to tweak your solution a bit to send the disarmer lemming to the right side of the level.
5 19 Immoral Society: The zombie lemming(who once was a savior of the lemkind :() is supposed to block the lemmings comming to the exit area. Other than that your solution is almost intended.
5 20 Lovebirds Duet: not intended at all :(

5 12 Butterfly Effect is also a huge backroute, but I can't find any proper way to patch up your backroute. The main trick is quite expensive to pull off in terms of skills so it's not easy to enforce the intended trick.
I think it might be better to take my time before I do something to this level :XD:

Thanks for the resolves  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

V4.8 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 06 RefleXion - added a bit of terrain & spike traps
-5 11 Lost in an Ice Cave - added a steel block
-5 13 System Malfunction - added some traps, +1platformer, made the gap to the bottom exit wider
-5 15 Simulation FARO - added limited count to both exits
-5 16 Facade of Indifference - made the ceiling higher
-5 17 Forgive Us - added a flamethrower
-5 18 One Lemming to Rule Them All - added a steel block
-5 19 Immoral Society - modified the steel block near the exit
-5 20 Lovebirds Duet - added a OWW
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

V4.9 is out! ;)

New level:


Wish Upon a Shooting Star

- The old 5 12(Butterfly Effect) is replaced by the new 5 12(Wish Upon a Shooting Star)


I've recently received 3 different backroutes to Butterfly Effect and I can't seem to find a way to patch them all properly. Also I was not happy with that level since it was a trick based level which means it's an easy solve if you know the trick and you'll struggle a lot if you aren't aware of that certain trick. I'm definitely not a fan of it tbh. The new 5 12 Wish Upon a Shooting Star might be farily easy for its position but is better than the old 5 12 in every way possible(at least I believe so :laugh:) As always, I attached level and solution replay files of the old 5 12 below for someone who still want to play or check the solution of the old 5 12. ;)
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot


Armani

@Ichotolot

Intended:

-5 11 Lost in an Ice Cave - Yeah now your solution is 100% intended :thumbsup:
-5 16 Facade of Indifference - Well you already had the main trick(glider+jumper+bomber to remove a bit of terrain so the slider lemming can get to the exit area with multiple shimmiers) but some of the details had been missing. This one is also 100% intended now. :D
-5 18 One Lemming to Rule Them All - Intended :thumbsup: :thumbsup: The disarmer lemming have to jump early enough so he can start shimmy under the platformer bridge before the gap is closed by the builder bricks. Also the blocker inside the digger tunnel to turn the shimmier around and the disarmer trick from 4 06 Mr Lem's Secret Wine Cellar is also intended.
-5 20 Lovebirds Duet - I'm glad this level is finally solved in intended way and I don't have to fix it anymore. Your solution is exactly intended! Probably the trickest part of this level is that you have to store a lemming at the bottom left side of the level so he can release the blocker lemming at the top later. Thanks for keep playing and finding the intended solution to this level. :D


Backroutes:

-5 06 RefleXion - That jumper to turn the glider around is not what I intended! I added a spike trap to block this...
-5 12 Wish Upon a Shooting Star - I think more one way force fields will do the trick here.
-5 13 System Malfunction - not 100% intended but you got the both main tricks!(The stacker at the reciever/3 consecutive jumpers to send a normal lemming)
-5 15 Simulation FARO - not quite intended yet :(
-5 17 Forgive Us - I didn't want to do this but I had no choice. Now the terrain under the starting area is not shimmiable which reveals the intended solution a bit in my opinion. But sometimes it is what it is. :D
-5 19 Immoral Society - The stacker+double basher is intended but other than that it's still far from the intended solution.
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

V5.0 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 06 RefleXion - removed a bit of terrain, added a spike trap
-5 12 Wish Upon a Shooting Star - added additional one-way force fields
-5 13 System Malfunction - added a bit of terrain
-5 15 Simulation FARO - reverted the latest update, added&removed a bit of terrain
-5 17 Forgive Us - removed a bit of terrain
-5 19 Immoral Society - added a steel block
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot

Found some resolving time!

Resolved 2 levels (5 12 + 5 13) and they feel intended! :)

IchoTolot

2 more down! (5 15 + 5 19)

5 15 should be another backroute, but I am certain that 5 19 is now intended! :)

I have spent some more tries at 5 06 and 5 17 and I see what might be intended just haven't found the exact way yet.

I have to admit that 5 17 becomes a bit annoying to play over time because of all possible precise stoner/shimmier/jumper inside turns and other possibilities.


Armani

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
@Ichotolot

12 13 19 - intended
15 -backroute

-5 12 Wish Upon a Shooting Star - Perfect! :thumbsup: The title refers to that falling bomber from above that carves out the stacker stacks which is the key trick to this level. :D
-5 13 System Malfunction -  That's it! You have to turn two climbers around with a single platformer and you pretty much had the rest of the solution already ;)
-5 19 Immoral Society - Also intended :thumbsup: Ironically the disarmer guy has to be sacrificed to the trap and that's the only way to solve this level. The stacker trick at the beginning is also intended. ;)

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- 5 17 Forgive Us - Yeah I have to admit this level can be a bit annoying since it requires some RR fiddling and precise stoner positionings. I think once you find out the correct RR manipulation rest of the level isn't that precise though. All the key tricks already have been showcased beforehand in this pack. (not in exactly same way. This level needs advanced variation of them ;))
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

V5.1 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 15 Simulation FARO - now both exits have thicker trigger areas(2pxs->3pxs)
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

kaywhyn

No replays for any patched up levels on my end, as well as haven't looked at any for that matter, but I'm posting in response to Icho regarding 5 6 and 5 17. For the former, it's definitely one of the hardest of the entire pack, and I would suspect that I would likely take an eternity or possibly not be able to solve the most recent version myself. For the latter, I completely agree there with the annoyance of the movement skills provided on that level. I remember getting very aggravated at how things kept failing by single pixels! Again, I haven't looked at the patched up version yet, but based on Icho's remarks on that level there's probably going to be a lot of pixel precision stuff when I eventually do take a look. Kind of reminding me of Jungle World 10 from LemRunner in a way, but thankfully the precision has been reduced considerably there in future updates :P
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

IchoTolot

Backroute for 5 17 - I managed to use your fix against you. :evil:

IchoTolot

And another solution for 5 06 - everything is in motion, but I have a spare blocker sadly.