[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Uncharted [Difficulty: Medium-Extreme]

Started by Armani, July 21, 2021, 04:43:50 AM

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Armani

-5 06 Saving the cloned glider lemming have to be the most difficult challenge in this level and the walker skill is too powerful in that regard! :evil:. Now you can get the walker skill only at the very end.

-5 17 Those jumper+stoner shenanigans to get to the top platform is not intended at all. I added the steel block beneath the starting platform so the shimmier(or shimmier+glider) is not enough to reach the bottom. Hopefully this will enforce the left part of the solution hence all the jumper+stoner shenanigans at the middle part of the level is also blocked. (You won't have any spare jumpers for the middle part now!)

My initial gut feeling was that 6,15,17,18 would be the hardest levels of the pack when they are properly enforced and I think I was right to a certain extent.



V5.2 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 06 RefleXion - a walker is now a pick-up
-5 17 Forgive Us - reverted the latest update, added a steel block
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IchoTolot

Solution for 5 15 - this madness has to be intended! :lem-mindblown:

Armani

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
@Ichotolot

Yes that's the intended madness.
The title came from faro shuffle which is one way of shuffling trump card - divide the deck into two parts and let them fall on to each other alternately.
Now you know what does this have to do with this level. :laugh:
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  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot

Solution for 5 17. I have a bit of confidence that this might be intended, because of the following:

Spoiler

- Used all skills
- Used RR manipulation
- Did not use the backroute-fixed area at all
- 2 on bottom, 1 on top

Armani

Ichotolot

Seems like the stacker may have been causing all the problems. :(
While your solution is incredible it still misses some core tricks.
I would not say the intended solution is super clean and straightforward but at least it's a lot more elegant than that.
Probably this update will block the stacker things at the beginning and is enough to enforce the intended soluton! (hopefully :laugh:)
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  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

V5.3 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 17 Forgive Us - added a steel block, -1 builder, +1 platformer
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot

After months of trying nearly every possible way in Aquarius 6 (with longer breaks in between) - I think I sadly found another dumb backroute that bunkers the crowd a little again. :evil:

Still I would declare it the hardest level of the pack (and hardest level that I played in a long time) so far!

Armani

@Ichotolot
In fact your solution is very close to intended now!
Spoiler

The way you save the first cloned lemming with platformer+jumper is something I missed :forehead:
Other than that your solution is pretty much intended!
If I remeber correctly, this is the only level left for you, right?
You are almost there now :thumbsup:
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My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

V5.4 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 06 RefleXion - moved the spike trap a bit higher
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot

QuoteIf I remeber correctly, this is the only level left for you, right?

No, I also still need to resolve 17 again beside 6.

But well, back to the drawing board...

Armani

V5.5 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 06 RefleXion - convenience patch to reduce precision and execution dificulty
(intended solution remains unchanged)
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My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

MASTER-88

Finally load this pack. I am two years to late. I´ll  see this topic first time right now. I have still work progress another "Extreme" difficult pack by Crane.

I´ll always enjoy play extreme levels. Most peoples like my brother enjoy play just easier levels and dislike extreme levels.

I am one most TOP 10-20 most genius lemmings players in the world but i am also extremely scatterbrained.

My style completed levels is just aggressive and i am usually very good to find backroutes and ETC..... I´ll post replays sometimes. Let see did i can beat your Aquarius. Im at least very curious to try attempt it. :thumbsup:
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Armani

V5.6 is out! ;)

Level fixes:

-5 17 Forgive Us - several backroute fixes



Also congratulations to Ichotolot for completing the whole pack! :D
Every solution is intended or acceptable.
A huge thanks to him for playing the pack and being persistent! :thumbsup:
I've had great fun following the journey! :thumbsup:
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

Armani

Now since the whole pack is fallen, I will see if I can make some kinds of creator's commentary series. Commentary video series would be ideal but if my lack of English skill strikes back, I may instead consider simple posts on forum about thought process while I was making levels, some random fun facts about titles&level themselves, my level making process in general etc...
We will see...:laugh:
My newest NeoLemmix level pack : Lemmings Halloween 2023 8-)

My NeoLemmix level packs(in chronological order):
  Lemmings Uncharted [Medium~Extreme]
  Xmas Lemmings 2021 [Easy~Very Hard]
  Lemmings Halloween 2023 [Easy-Very Hard]

IchoTolot

Quote from: Armani on July 31, 2023, 06:35:14 AM
Now since the whole pack is fallen, I will see if I can make some kinds of creator's commentary series. Commentary video series would be ideal but if my lack of English skill strikes back, I may instead consider simple posts on forum about thought process while I was making levels, some random fun facts about titles&level themselves, my level making process in general etc...
We will see...:laugh:

I would love to watch it! ;)
Give it a try!

Anyway, I can say this was the hardest pack to solve for me so far and I am very glad I finally finished it. Especially Aquarius 6 and 17 were the biggest roadblocks!
I will probably start uploading my solutions after I am done uploading Unusual Lemmings.

This pack definitely is an amazing one and ranks among my all time favorites! :thumbsup: