Level pack: LemRunner (2021)

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92Dexter11

LemRunner V5 has been released!
The original post has been updated to include the latest pack.

Note: The LR2 style packs have also been updated. You will need the latest version for this update to work.

Levels Changelog is as follows:
Added 3 new bonus levels (each rank now has 11 levels each)
Added a postview text for the last level of every rank.


Jungle World:
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Excavation - The overhang and force-field have been extended slightly to make the solution slightly more obvious. This may break some replays. Also made the jungle way more humid.
Entrapment - Entire level has been completely reworked. Level is now easier to solve, and harder to backroute (hopefully). Also features the new "laserer" skill type.
Waste not, want not - Moved a gold. Removed a builder.
Lemdiana Jones - Tweaked some terrain slightly. Removed a stacker. Overall solution hasn't changed but should be more forgiving.

Gear World:
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Lefty Loosey Righty Flighty - Modified leftmost terrain to remove a backroute. Also added a gear to the far right of the level to preemptively remove a backroute, and make the intended solution more obvious.
Added a bonus level, "Depth Charge"!

Mona World:
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AnyWay the Wind Blows - Level has been heavily reworked. Features a slightly different skillset, and wider gaps between the lower platforms to enforce the intended solution.
Ad astra per aspera - Chiseled away at those pillars some more...

Wacky World:
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Neurosis is no excuse for bad manners - Some colourful lumps have sprouted from that purple goop stuff. It must be spring.
When Life Gives You Lemmings - A lemon has become more angular. It must be spring.
Added a bonus level, "Lem Ninja"!

Industry World:
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Bait and Switchboard - the two bashers are now in a pickup, rather than starting the level with them.
The specialist - Moved some patches of electricity to actually pose a threat to a climber. :forehead:
Added a bonus level, "Pixel Imperfect"!

Please note that some levels also have minor graphical reworks, such as different terrain pieces or new fog. These changes are purely cosmetic and shouldn't affect the solution/replays at all.

Special thanks to IchoTolot for his replays and feedback! :thumbsup:

IchoTolot

Here are my updated solution including the new bonus levels. :)

Jungle World 10 is way better now, thanks for the update!

I noticed a new theme after backroutes have been patched.

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There are quite a few levels now which need active use of the back and fourth splitter to seperate lems from each side. ;)

Also, "AnyWay the Wind Blows" is a lot harder now!

For the new levels:

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"Depth Charge": I like the concept and the level, but like 2 pixels less terrain to go through could be beneficial as right now there is next to no leeway for the basher placements as the bombers just barely go through.

"Lem Ninja": One of my favorites of the pack now! :thumbsup: It looks so easy, but actually figuring out the route is really difficult as there are soooo many! May I ask you to submit level+replay for the community pack? ;P
Actually, I might go through the pack once more soon after backroutes have been patch out and may ask this for a few selected ones. The pack could need a few more levels from you two! :)

"Pixel Imperfect": I needed a bit to see whats going on here as you cannot use builders as a splatform, but as the same time cannot put stacker steps there. It is precise, but as you lukily only need to place them correct 2 times it's fine. Nice trick though!

In general, I think there are only a few single backroutes left at most. But that's only estimation. ;P

92Dexter11

Hi IchoTolot!

We've released version 5.1 in response to your replays. It's only a minor patch, here's the changelog:

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Ziggurat - Filled in a hole to prevent the bomber backroute. Should've released this one sooner, OOPS! :forehead:
Depth Charge - Changed the terrain slightly and replaced a block of metal with a smaller one to allow for more leniencey while bombing.
The Specialist - Added some metal to prevent mining.

The level "Entrapment" has not been modified, despite the backroute. This is because I feel the backroute may be impossible to fix. The intended solution seems easier to pull off, so I don't really mind all that much.

All of your other solutions are intended, great work! :thumbsup:



Additionally, my brother and I have been discussing levels to include with the community pack, and we've compiled a list of levels which we feel stand out above the rest:

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Jungle 7 - Excavation
Jungle 10 - Lemdiana Jones

Gear 7 - Like Clockwork
Gear 9 - Authorised Lemmings Only

Mona 6 - Any Way the Wind Blows

Wacky 2 - Full Circle
Wacky 6 - Non Sequitur         (Not too sure about this one - it's really misleading and tricky, unless you know the solution, in which case it's very easy)
Wacky 11 - Lem Ninja

Industry 6 - Revenge of the Dead
Industry 7 - Storage Facility 22A
Industry 10 - Dead Weight      (Not too sure about this one either - the solution seems way too precise and unforgiving)

Do you agree with our selection? Are there levels you feel are missing from this list? We're also aware that we might have selected too many to be included. Is there a limit for level contributions?

IchoTolot

Thanks for the fixes. I attached my resolves. :thumbsup:

I was surprised I found another solution to "Ziggurat" rather quickly as I had a few problems with that level before.

I still think "The Specialist" is a backroute though. :evil:

Regarding the selection, here are the levels which would be on my selection list (you may notice it is a bit similar ;)):

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Jungle 7 - Excavation
Jungle 11 - Riddle of the Ancients (It just has that classic feel to it)

Gear 5 - Measure once, build twice (I was really impressed with that one. You might think it's fiddly getting up at first, but it turns out very clean)
Gear 7 - Like Clockwork
Gear 9 - Authorised Lemmings Only

Mona 6 - Any Way the Wind Blows
Mona 9 - A caelo usque ad centrum (I just loved the digger tunnel shinanigans!)

Wacky 2 - Full Circle
Wacky 11 - Lem Ninja

Industry 6 - Revenge of the Dead
Industry 7 - Storage Facility 22A
Industry 11 - Pixel Imperfect (Apart from the 3 precise assignments it's very clean and the trick is hard to spot)

In the end it is your decision what to submit though.

Currently there is no limit to submissions. I will only take action when I see that a rank has like a very heavy amount of entries from one person.

Given that you are two persons and not just one and you only have one submission so far I am willing to accept a bunch. ;)

92Dexter11

Version 5.2 has been released!
This is just a minor update, fixing a few issues with the industry world; make sure you also have the correct style version.

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The Specialist - Extended the rightmost part of the level, and added a piece of gold.

All levels featuring teleporters have had their teleporter exits moved down by two pixels, to fix a graphical error that tan discovered.
The solutions are completely unchanged, save for Pixel Imperfect, which was broken by the patch.

IchoTolot

Here is my resolve. :)

92Dexter11

Here's version 5.3. It's just another slight change to the Specialist.
The intended solution (and replay file) remains unchanged.

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The Specialist - Removed some steel and terrain from The Specialist to prevent a backroute.

This level really is becoming an arms race, huh! :laugh:

IchoTolot

I still have a leftover miner, but maybe this is a little bit closer.???

∫tan x dx

Hi all!

We've posted an update to LemRunner, with only a few changes to one level - The Specialist (Industry 9).

Massive thanks to IchoTolot for his help with playtesting! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

As it happens, enforcing the specific intended solution is almost impossible without massively redesigning the level.
The official solution to The specialist remains unchanged, but all other solutions are welcome too.

92Dexter11

Just updated the OP to included some screenshots, as recommended by Proxima on discord ;)

mobius

started taking a look at this; these styles look amazing!
everything by me: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5982.msg96035#msg96035

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92Dexter11

Quote from: mobius on January 15, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
started taking a look at this; these styles look amazing!

Thanks! This pack took a long time to make, and was definitely a passion project, for both me and my brother. :D