Ultimate Levels of your packs

Started by namida, July 27, 2004, 04:12:04 AM

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namida

What is the "Ultimate" level in each of your packs? My ones:


Lemmings Plus - Funny: Number 1 Sturges Road
Lemmings Plus - Strange: Flying Away
Lemmings Plus - Weird: A Holiday In Hell
Lemmings Plus - Wacky: The Buildo Station
Lemmings Plus - Insane: Return Of The T <--- Also the ultimate level of the whole L+
Lemmings Plus 2 - Light: Indirect Route
Lemmings Plus 2 - Neutral: Confusion
Lemmings Plus 2 - Dark: The Parking Lot
Lemmings Plus 2 - Evil: Lemmerixo <--- Also the ultimate level of the whole L+2
Lemming Racers: Rana Drao Ku
Lemming Racers 2: Nuiht Dra Muhk Fyo <--- 007: Moonracer is harder if you try for 100% in it
Lemming Racers 3: Uphill Race <--- Probably the only LR level that can really be classed as "hard"
Ultimate Challenge: Without What Is Needed
Ultimate Challenge 2: Death In All Directions
Ultimate Challenge 3: Oblivion
Ultimate Challenge 4: Temple Of Oblivion
Ultimate Challenge 5: Castle Of Oblivion
Ultimate Challenge 6: All Your Lemming Are Belong To Us
Ultimate Challenge 7: Absolute Ultimate Challenge
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

chaos_defrost

Interesting thread...

For my LemEdit packs, all of them are the tenth levels, except 6, where I think 9 in harder, and 9, where I also think 9 is harder, unless you've never seen the solution to 10, which I doubt.

Overall, in LemEdit, my hardest level is still, I think, "4 Pixels (or so) from Victory" (Set 3, level 10).

In my Cheapo sets:

Do the Mario!: I don't think any of the levels are truly hard, but I like "?????".
MPT: The Bar of Fire, just for its downright annoying precision. That, and it is pretty much impossible before you know the trick, even when you DO know it.
MS Paint Adventure: Ramico's Revenge, doubtlessly.
IS World: The last Ramico level is hard... but Fall and no life 3 is also tricky. I don't know.

I found Return of the T quite easy, personally. And, just looking at it, I don't see exactly what can be so hard with "Lemmerixo", but as I say that, I haven't beaten it yet.
"こんなげーむにまじになっちゃってどうするの"

~"Beat" Takeshi Kitano

namida

Trust me. Assuming that there's no backroutes, Lemmerixo is MUCH harder than it looks.

Oh, by the way, you may have noticed some L+2 levels are stolen from UC packs, the "Ultimate" L+2 levels are not counting the UC levels. If you count them, the Ultimate L+2 level is Castle Of Oblivion.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Ice_Eagle91

Quote from: Streetlight Admnistrator 370  link=1090901525/0#0 date=1090901524

Lemmings Plus - Insane: Return Of The T <--- Also the ultimate level of the whole L+

Lemming Racers: Rana Drao Ku

Umm...isn't it Dialing 309 2000 that's the ultimate level of the whole L+?

And you said that in Lemming Racers that Imposiblemm Track is the hardest.

namida

Oh yeah. Forgot about that one. ^_^
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Ice_Eagle91

I also think that Windin' up your Lemmings is harder than Indirect Route and should have been placed in Neutral.

namida

Winding Up Your Lemmings isn't hard at all.

And by the way, before when I said something like "I forgot about that one", I was talking about Impossiblemm Track. Return Of The T is the ultimate level of L+, with Dialing 309 2000 as a close second. If Dialing 309 2000 required 100%, it would be the ultimate.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

chaos_defrost

Quote from: Streetlight Admnistrator 370  link=1090901525/0#6 date=1092457900Winding Up Your Lemmings isn't hard at all.

Oh, please. It is harder than all the other Light levels you placed AFTER it in the level order...
"こんなげーむにまじになっちゃってどうするの"

~"Beat" Takeshi Kitano

Ice_Eagle91

Quote from: Streetlight Admnistrator 370  link=1090901525/0#6 date=1092457900
Return Of The T is the ultimate level of L+, with Dialing 309 2000 as a close second. If Dialing 309 2000 required 100%, it would be the ultimate.

Oh, please to that too! I was able to solve Return of the T, too! It was so easy for me! Dialing 309 2000 is the hardest level because of too much precision!

Why did you make Neutral 5 Confusion? It's too early for such a hard level to be Neutral 5. It should have been Neutral 15!

namida

It's to be like the original lemmings. Many levels out of place.


Actually, I don't find confusion to be at all that hard. It does require a small bit of precision, but that's it.


Dialing 309 2000, I actually found a solution that, not only saves 100%, but also has near fail-proof indications of when to perform a certian task.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Ice_Eagle91

Steaver, you'll never believe this, but I BEAT LEMMERIXO!!!!! It's true! &#A0;:)

Temple of Oblivion is harder than all the other Dark Levels and should have been placed in Evil.

piainp2

In my isulemms cheapo set, Lemming burner is the ultimate. (despite the fact it's only level 10). its the only level that requires precision, speed and multitasking lemmings.

Hard finish is the ultimate level of isulemms 2, despite the rather uninteresting introduction to it.

EDIT: I updated the post for Isulemms2

ANOTHER EDIT: LCD: Cry for me 3

YET ANOTHER EDIT: Style Trial: Cube2

LETS EDIT!: Style Trial Part 2: Satanic Lemmings (The precision is utter hell!)

chaos_defrost

In the "Lost Levels" pack I sort of released, "Back and Forth" is the hardest level, in my mind. Even from looking at it, the tasks just don't look suitable for the level... but they are.
"こんなげーむにまじになっちゃってどうするの"

~"Beat" Takeshi Kitano

namida

Quote from: Ice_Eagle91  link=1090901525/0#10 date=1092760893Steaver, you'll never believe this, but I BEAT LEMMERIXO!!!!! It's true! &#A0;:)

Temple of Oblivion is harder than all the other Dark Levels and should have been placed in Evil.

Congratulations!
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Proxima

Hope you don't mind opinions from a newcomer....

I've just beaten Lemmerixo, and I found it very easy. I'm not sure if I got the intended solution, because I had quite a few skills left over.

I've also found a backroute on "Bullet Lemming"; I know it's not on your list of ultimate levels, but thought I'd mention it anyway. Build over the small gap. Make the next two lemmings build so the builder has time to finish. Build up to the metal, the bash through the bridge after one lemming has gone up. Build to the top in a zigazg; float down; build under the next metal ceiling to turn round, then build back against the metal wall so the other lemmings can survive the fall. Then complete the course with the worker lemming and finally rebuild the broken bridge.