[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Open Air [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]

Started by Strato Incendus, November 28, 2020, 05:09:53 PM

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kaywhyn

Hey WouterSmits, don't overcomplicate this one. It's definitely possible and a lot easier than you think. If possible, send a replay so that Strato or anyone else who has passed it can see why and where you're getting stuck and could possibly help you to solve it. To save a replay, press U at any time while you're playing the level.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
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kaywhyn

You almost got it! There's one skill at the very end that you're not placing correctly that's causing you to think you need more builders. See if you can figure it out ;)
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ericderkovits

#18
yes, i solved the 1st 2 levels, and yes I don't think they're tutorials at all,

Anyways here are my 2 soft levels(1 and 2), Got the Talisman for level 1.

WouterSmits


namida

QuoteYou may not be able to go to any real open-air festivals right now. And you're definitely not able to go to indoors concerts.

*laughs in New Zealand-ese*
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

WouterSmits

heres replay 3rd level with 4 talisman
ive beated

ericderkovits

ok here are the next 3 beat 3,4 and 5. Got talisman for 4

Strato Incendus

Thanks for playing, WouterSmits and ericderkovits! ;)

Everything is as intended so far, except, eric's solution for Soft 05, which is a valid alternative one (i.e. uses all the skills, not a backroute, just not the way I solved it :D ).

And indeed, even the first two levels are not meant to be tutorial levels. Or at least not more so than the "Crash Course" levels from SEB Lems. ;)
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

WouterSmits

beated level 5+6 
all skills used
no backroute

kaywhyn

Also, if you noticed, Soft 1 is a 1-of-everything level with just the 8 classic skills, while Soft 2 is a 1-of-everything level using only NL skills except for the jumper, which will be introduced in the third rank. It's also the very first one in the pack that makes use of the full 10 skill panel. I guess one thing I forgot to point out is my experience playing levels with a full 10 skill panel. I say the difficulty varies depending on the level, like most things, but the fact that you can have 2 extra skills can definitely up the difficulty considerably.

Nice to see a lot of takers on the LOA pack already. Your choice of releasing the pack on the weekend was wise indeed, Strato! :thumbsup: Not to mention the 2 years in the making and the build up of anticipation leading up to the release ;) Just a word of advice to the players, and that is you don't have to, but I generally only post replays after I get through an entire rank. After what took several hours to write the entire feedback for Strato's other pack Paralems, I'm definitely not doing that again, finishing an entire pack first and then posting replays/very detailed feedback on almost every single level. Instead, depending on how long each rank is, I will either post all my replays after I finish a rank or when I get to the halfway point. Or, more rarely, whenever I feel like it, which is what I think most players do anyway :P

And remember, if you get stuck, feel free to ask Strato or anyone who has passed the level for a hint(s), and we'll do what we can to help ;)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0


Strato Incendus

Well, imagine my shock... :evil: Soft 07 is precisely what I expected to be the first road block.

First hint (Soft 07)
If you build across the first pillar from the top of the three-Builder wall, there is obviously no way for the crowd to get over that pillar - because you don't want them to get back behind the three-Builder wall, and they can't, even if you wanted them to.

So the three Builders that create the wall on the left and the Builders that get you over the first pillar need to be separate.

How you isolate the worker lemming for the second part of the level... that is a different story after that ;) .
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels


Strato Incendus

Second hint (Soft 07)
Do you know the level "Dolly Dimple" from Oh No! More Lemmings (Crazy rank, level 02)? If not, you should probably try and beat that level first. ;)

Alternatively, there's a level in Lemmings World Tour (Noisemaker rank, level 11) called "Can't stop this thing we started". This level teaches the exact same approach as "Dolly Dimple".

This is what I meant by "You need to know the tricks from Lemmings World Tour to beat this pack". That wasn't a joke! :P

Hint if you've already beaten "Dolly Dimple" and "Can't stop this thing we started"

You can use Builders to force lemmings to walk into one direction only. The same logic applies here.
Except that in this case, it's not about making them all look in the same direction when falling through a Digger hole... but you still want the entire crowd to look in one direction, the pioneer in the other one.
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels