Level Design Contest #21 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

[IchoTolot]

Hope this is intended now!

[WillLem]

From discord:

@WillLem You can indeed swap your entry, but then I need it in the correct naming format.    I would put your old level in a bonus rank then. Seems like you got fixing to do anyway

Done. I posted it on Discord, but here it is as well for the record

[ericderkovits]

Hi Willlem, I noticed Icho put your V1 of Hopping Mad in the contest level. But I still solved it without the jumpers.

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Your release rate was too low. You need to make to release rate 99 to make the jumpers needed.

here is my replay again not using the jumpers

[kaywhyn]

That was the fix I suggested for WillLem here: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5145.msg86304#msg86304. Also, to be fair to WillLem, he hasn't been on since posting his new contest level. That's why it's still a V1.

[WillLem]

Here's V2. All 3 Jumpers are needed now, simply making the floor 2px solved the issue. I've also added decoration and some variation in the skillset so you're not just doing the same thing 3 times; it's much more of a Jumper showcase now. It's a little bit trickier as well, but still very likely to be one of the easier entries in the contest.

Enjoy!

[kaywhyn]

Once again, should go in the update topic

[ericderkovits]

ok, but put your Hopping Mad level(.nxlv) in the Update topic. The Discussion topic is for posting replays and discussing levels. The Update topic is actually where the .nxlv goes

Edit: Wow Kaywhyn, we were saying this at the exact same time, sorry you must have beat me just ahead of me.

[kaywhyn]

@WillLem Replay for your R1 V2 attached. Yes, great fix and your contest level is a few times much better overall with the variation and decoration, even if it's still quite easy. In particular,

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I especially loved your trick of cloning a right-facing jumper in midair but before you assign the right-facing lemming a climber so that the cloned jumper turns back around to the right. That's really clever! Well done!

@ericderkovits It's ok. I got in ahead by almost 2 minutes. I also got in ahead of you with our suggested fix for WillLem's level, but there I was several hours ahead In any case, I agree with WillLem's take on his revision. It's so much better than our suggestion of just simply having the RR already start as maxed out even though it's the easiest fix and doesn't involve any changing level design-wise. Making the floor completely thin is also just as easy, but it totally escaped us and is definitely a much better fix overall. Not only that, the other changes he made resulted in the level being so much better!

[ericderkovits]

yes, William I like this level better, but I solved it with using only 2 jumpers. This I know though is NOT intended since in the intended solution it requires to use at least 3 jumpers.

[WillLem]

Thanks for the feedback guys, here's V3 which fixes Eric's backroute. I've also tidied up the layout a bit and moved the level start to the centre.

[kaywhyn]

@WillLem as was stated above, any updates to your level and the level file should go in the update topic, not this one. As for your R1 V3, my replay for your V2 still works, and so no resolving needed on my part.

[WillLem]

My bad, I've now put it into the correct topic

[IchoTolot]

I think this could be intended.

[WillLem]

@IchoTolot

I like it! It's very similar to the intended solution but addresses the problem of needing to turn the cloned Lemming around in an alternative way. Super stuff!

[IchoTolot]

From tomorrow on the videos of my updated solutions for the contest levels will pop up as well as the solutions to my own levels.