Superlemmini's Lemmings Reunion (Finished)

Started by ericderkovits, August 09, 2020, 10:47:37 PM

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kaywhyn

Ok, another issue that showed up for me, but for the Reunion pack. In Nightmare 9, the very first sucker trap the lemmings encounter when dropping down into the main area sucks them up, which I'm pretty sure is not supposed to happen. Thus, your replay crashes after the level plays out for a few seconds. Not sure if it's my end, but do you think you can check to see if your Nightmare 9 replay works?
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ericderkovits

#16
ok yes, but that's because your styles folder is set to the normal one, because you tested original game "You need bashers this time". so it crashes. When I saw this post I already knew the answer to your problem.
as I said keep 2 separate folders for the styles
Here is the solution to the problem

1) Download my normal styles from the My superlemmini packs post and name it styles-normal
2) Download Icho's reunion styles you can download from my dropbox. name it styles-for lemmings reunion only.
3) when playing a normal pack copy the styles-normal folder and name it styles
4) when you decide to play reunion delete the styles folder and copy the folder styles-for lemmings reunion only and name it styles.
5) and when going back to normal game- delete styles folder and copy styles-normal and name it styles.

This way you will never have a problem.

kaywhyn

I did exactly what you wrote and the trap still sucks them up. Also, the sucker traps at the bottom don't work. I wonder if there's something wrong with the bubbles style.
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ericderkovits

#18
No there is nothing wrong with the bubble style, this was actually my fault. Sorry about that, I corrected this level. also I tested every sucker even ones you never go by, by putting
hatches near them, saving the .ini and playing the level. all the traps work now.

here is the new 509.ini
just put it into your reunion levels folder.

Note: also I updated it in my dropbox. so now if you download it from my dropbox, the level should be corrected.

And thanks kaywhyn, if you find anything else that I missed(especially traps) just let me know and I will correct. It's just this level had so many traps to test.
Also this was in the Nightmare rank. so I was kinda wanting to get the project done. I guess I should have taken more time with this level.

kaywhyn

#19
Nope, still doesn't work as intended. The first trap the lemmings encounter just before dropping down into the main area still suck them up. The traps at the bottom that you need to build over also don't work either. So, the new version you attached has the same thing. =( trying to download the styles from the OP, but it downloads the level pack instead.
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ericderkovits


ericderkovits

ok your right downloading the styles downloaded the pack instead. sorry again. I fixed. so now if you download the styles from the link it will be the styles.
I tested this for the other links too. all the links now download the right thing.

ericderkovits

ok mine works for the level, try downloading the styles from the new link and redo the Nightmare level 9. make sure the styles folder you're using is the Reunion one too.
Because if you use the normal one it will not work.

kaywhyn

Ok so it might just be my end, but in any case I tried your instructions on the renaming the styles folder again and still the same thing happens with the new ini file. The first sucker trap the lemmings encounter before dropping into the main area still suck them up. In addition, the traps at the bottom you need to build over don't work. So, it's the same problems as last time.
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kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

ericderkovits

ok try downloading the whole levels pack, see if that works. maybe it's because just sending the 509.ini by itself doesn't work.

also  after downloading the reunion styles, rename your styles-folder to something else and use the downloaded one and name it styles.

kaywhyn

Tried all your suggestions and same thing. Ugh! Do you think it's something I need to change in the ini file for either the level or the style ini? This level hates me or something lol.
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ericderkovits

here download this. before extracting rename your styles folder to something else.

This is the exact copy of my styles folder and lemmings reunion pack
also this is the reunion styles but I just named it styles to see if your Nightmare 9 works

ericderkovits

and if the above doesn't work, try opening up the new 509.ini i uploaded. Then in the 1.43n-c editor I P.M.d you, then hit SAVE AS and look for the lemmings reunion folder and hit save.
see if this works.

ericderkovits

#28
ok if you get the level 509.ini opened in the editor. here is the level data for each trap
just go to dropdown menu "view" and click on inspector window.
Now just click on a trap. it will show green borders for the object(these sucker traps object numbers are 9 and just move the trap to the positions listed below

Trap 1 left of exit on block there.
Left 967, Top 143

Trap 2 slight above and to the right of the exit
Left 1174, Top 92

Trap 3 just to the right and above Trap 2
Left 1247, Top 28

Trap 4 on bottom floor below left bubbles right of hatch
Left 1334, Top 219

Trap 5 right there left of hatch
Left 1467, Top 27

Trap 6 next to 3 vertical steel bars,right of middle one
Left 1542, Top 157

Trap 7 just below leftmost horizontal steel block
Left 1546, Top 219

Now the 3 in a row left of where a digger digs

left one
Left 1640, Top 99

middle one
Left 1658, Top 99

right one
Left 1675, Top 99

kaywhyn

#29
Finally! Nightmare 9 now works as intended. Traps at the bottom work, and the first trap the crowd encounters doesn't suck them up so that they all drop to the main area. All I did was download your styles a few posts above. I didn't have to do anything else. You have made me one happy person. The only other issue was the Sega levels loaded but the levels appeared all messed up. I managed to fix that by simply removing the Sega style folder and copying over another Sega styles folder I had that has way fewer files (121 vs 245 before). Perhaps if you have time you can load the Sega levels and see if they're also messed up. If so, I can send you my Sega style folder.

Also, for Fun 5 I managed to fix that even with the Reunion styles folder in my Superlemmini directory. I managed to compare the crystal ini file in the Reunion one with the crystal ini file of the normal styles folder, and it turns out a few lines were missing from the Reunion ini file. All I did was backup the crystal ini file in Reunion, delete all the lines in the ini file, and then copy everything from the crystal ini of the normal styles and paste it in the crystal ini file of the Reunion one. Then I tested the level again and now the lemmings can exit.

I compared the brick ini files and same thing: some lines are missing in the Reunion brick ini, so I did the same thing. Before that, in Wicked 1 the lemmings wouldn't get killed by the stomper trap, but once I copied over the ini file in the normal brick style, they now get properly killed. So, that probably means this needs to be done with all of the normal styles, meaning just the original lemmings and ONML styles. Easy fix, just annoying to do. Perhaps once I do that I can send all of the style ini's to you.

Once again, thanks for the help with Nightmare 9.

edit: actually, I'm a dumb dumb. Can just simply copy and paste the ini file rather than open the ini files and select all the lines and copy/paste in notepad.
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kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0