[ALL PLATFORMS] Pause-free Challenge [PF]

Started by WillLem, April 04, 2020, 09:47:15 PM

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grams88

Thanks for the discord Invite Willlem :), might take me a while to get used to the discord as I've never used it before. Looking forward to checking your pause playthrough videos.

MASTER-88

Awesome job Willem and i´ll attempt all with my SNES.

Next challenge Mayhem 18 Then there were four under 2 minutes & 100% saved. (i think i might try that later.) I got it in 3 minutes my 1st attempt.
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MASTER-88

About my difficult settings (pause free)
Easy: Is easy like Take o running jump
Easy/Mdium= Level whcih is easy and usually 1-10 attempts
Mediums= avarage hard =Some most of the levels
Medium/hard: Some really piss of levels /mayhem 9 curse of pharahos 100% saved
Hard: Mayhem 5 76/80 & Mayhem 15 fast food kitchen 100% and also Sunsoft Special 3 completion called name hard.
Very hard: N/A
Extrmely HARD: N/A

When i didmy max-% i might call Extrmely hards levels Bolier Room 100% & Pillar of hercules 97%. Both levels take me around 180 attempts and much practice. So thats pause free game play is just fun time killing.:)
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MASTER-88

But if you are interestes see some special solutions. I´ll be redy make this. Im extrmely good lemmings player (25 years played that game) So every challenge is welcome.
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MASTER-88

I think this serious challenge Mayhem 18 100% under 2 minutes no pause.:)

I am persoanlly test out this and its 100% working but i´ll called very hard no pausing and limit.


Difficulty: Very hard or extemely hard.
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LemSteven

#65
Here's my results for the Tricky and Taxing levels in this challenge.  For an extra degree of difficulty, I did the max-% solutions for all of these.  I also added one of my own favorite challenges to the mix in Taxing 15 100% No Builders.

Tricky 19: 1 attempt
Tricky 22 100%: 2 attempts
Tricky 24 100% 2 attempts
Tricky 25 100%: 8 attempts

Taxing 3: 1 attempt
Taxing 11: 1 attempt
Taxing 14 100%: 2 attempts - in the first attempt, I placed my basher through Nessy too high, resulting in a splat fall off of Nessy's nose.
Taxing 15 100%, No Builders: 14 attempts - The successful attempt was blooper-fest, yet I somehow managed to pull it off.  I let a digger go too far and ended up having to redo a section of work that had previously been completed.  Later on a miner turned off a blocker that he was supposed to free, resulting in even more skill wastage.  I ended up using all 20 bashers, all 20 miners, 19 of 20 diggers, and the last lemming exited with 6 seconds left on the clock.
Taxing 16 100%: 6 attempts - There's a bunch of frantic building early on in this one, but it's fairly simple after that.
Taxing 22 100% (2 solutions): - 1 attempt for the direct route (send a floater down and have him build a catch-bridge for the others); 3 attempts for the "over-the-top" route.
Taxing 24 100% 1 attempt
Taxing 26 100%: 5 attempts - I technically got this on the first attempt, but I used all 12 builders in doing so.  To be fair, I kept trying until I got the builders down to 10, to meet Amiga requirements.
Taxing 28 70/80: 29 attempts - This one is tough even when pausing is allowed!  There were a couple of spots in which I had to assign basher then builder in rapid succession, requiring a rapid-fire click-F7-click sequence.  I'd be truly shocked if anyone could pull this one off without using the keyboard.

WillLem

On special request, a Pause-free playthrough of Level 10 End of Quarantine from Ron Stard's Rodents pack!

Ron_Stard

Quote from: WillLem on June 16, 2020, 09:09:29 PM
On special request, a Pause-free playthrough of Level 10 End of Quarantine from Ron Stard's Rodents pack!

Haha, at last you made it! Congratulations! Since the very first moment I perceived the multitasking madness of this level, I thought it would be very interesting to do it without Pause! :thumbsup:

MASTER-88

Back the lemmings.

Finally done all levels pause free completion my SNES version.
Im not going post all in youtube. Some cooler videos will be up in youtube. But all completion solutions could be find up in archiveorg

Fun 1-30 Pause free completion-%
https://archive.org/details/Funpausefree
Tricky 1-30 pause free completion-%
https://archive.org/details/Lemmingspausefreetricky
Taxing 1-30 pause free completion-%
https://archive.org/details/lemmingstaxingpausefree
Mayhem 1-30 pause free completion-%
https://archive.org/details/lemmingsmayhempausefree
Sunsoft Special 1-5 pause free completion-%
https://archive.org/details/lemmingspausefreesunsoft

See also my youtube pause free challenge solutions Currently 14 harder challenge videos is here:
Few news videos is added in playlist a today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXi249BaVKY&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Tricky 25 Cascade 100% saved pause free SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TYbbgVYFp4&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=13&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Mayhem 18 Then there were four pause free speedrun 100% solution (6:31/9:00) time remain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRzkmZdOd0&list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u&index=14&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Spoiler
Mayhem 18 could be done faster, i forget used miner and turn lemmings, but how ever its still not was goes under 2 minutes. I got 7:07/9:00 timeremain with pause button used. Its might be possible make sub 2 minutes or close pause free 100% solution, but its might really hard, i think 6:45 or so is surely possible
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WillLem

#69
Thanks for sharing these Master88, I'll be sure to check them out. Had a quick look at your Cascade 100%, that must have been a huge challenge with a SNES controller; it's tough enough with mouse precision!

Have you seen my PF Cascade 100% video yet? It's by far my favourite moment of this challenge, it took me the best part of an evening to perfect. The thing about that level is, the opening is so difficult to set up Pause-free that every skill assignment for the rest of the level becomes a pressure shot, even though it's technically a breeze once you've contained the crowd.

You're in the club now, anyways! I'm sure there aren't many who can say they've done it ;P

MASTER-88

QuoteYou're in the club now, anyways! I'm sure there aren't many who can say they've done it

Thanks WillLem. :) Yeah that was quite interesting progress. Im not even knew first, did you can beat all levels. Personally Sunsoft Special 3 (called name private room is available) was definitely toughest level completed only. Its just seems impossible first, but i did find some strategys and make it possible. For sure this was still very hard one. I have also little bit troubles mayhem 29 Save Me, just because this level is totally annoying. Surprisely i got Sunsoft special 2 (called name I am AT) done quite quickly, but i think its not that easy level. Have to make very quick diggers. Totally im not still find any very hard levels to pass with completion-%


QuoteHave you seen my PF Cascade 100% video yet? It's by far my favourite moment of this challenge, it took me the best part of an evening to perfect. The thing about that level is, the opening is so difficult to set up Pause-free that every skill assignment for the rest of the level becomes a pressure shot, even though it's technically a breeze once you've contained the crowd.

Just watched it. Great solution and its also bit different than my SNES solution. Great job.:thumbsup: You did use very interesting locking and release strategys and i personally never are figured out that way myself.

QuoteHad a quick look at your Cascade 100%, that must have been a huge challenge with a SNES controller; it's tough enough with mouse precision!

Yeah that digger-builder skill switching have to be very fast and its take me several attempts make that correct. Otherwise im not find that very hard level. Though i think my solution look little bit easier and less reflex requires than your way.:)
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MASTER-88

#71
Mayhem 29 Save. 97% saved pause free Snes. Also beat my point record which was totally accident find when i attempted pause free challenge. I also got beat level one less skill than before. So two records making in one video.

This was definitely hardest "possible" max-% without using pause button. This is hard even with pausing. Also minimal possible skills make that even cooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqcdgUZRKQ&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

EDIT:
QuoteTaxing 16 100%: 6 attempts - There's a bunch of frantic building early on in this one, but it's fairly simple after that.

This level is called Umbrella land. I personally think its just totally impossile make build block without pausing on at least on SNES version. Just too much release rate drops and impossible timers.

I just count some levels which cannot be max-% on SNES.
Tricky 23. For sure 97-99% solution cannot happen even in theory. Few timings requires pause game.
Taxing 16 100%. I really shocked Lemsteven make this 100% on DOS. I personally think i really need very different way build blocking than i did my paused solution. My paused way doesn´t work on SNES witout pausing game. Pause assist SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbfDUVY35sg&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Taxing 28 90%. Good job Lemsteve. I personally think here is few too hard timings make it on SNES controlls. (90% is Confirmed on SNES)
Mayhem 2 100% for sure is npt human possible. 99% probably could be. Not are trying yet that one.
Mayhem 10 97 (2 lost) & 96% (3 lost) is both impossible. 94% 4 were lost is confrimed possible on SNES
Mayhem 19 96% (2 lost) seems at least super hard, but not sure is it theory possible to make without pausing.
Sunsoft special 2 I am AT 100% is TAS possible without pausing, but for sure its never be done on console.

Its quickly look every other levels seems possible make pause free max-% on console conditions expect those ones.
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MASTER-88

#72
QuoteTaxing 28 70/80: 29 attempts - This one is tough even when pausing is allowed!  There were a couple of spots in which I had to assign basher then builder in rapid succession, requiring a rapid-fire click-F7-click sequence.  I'd be truly shocked if anyone could pull this one off without using the keyboard.

Okay. I did 89/100 saved on real SNES and real SNES controlls. Okay this shit take me 103 failed attempts. I think i´ll attempt 90% solution later, but i think i definitely need practice it first. This solution i make intention kill climber lemming, because making climber to blocker and let builder have to requires some fucking quick reflex. Not even sure is it theory possible to make on console. I´ll test it later my emulator and look can this work on.

Here is Taxing 28 Poor Wee Creatures 89% solution which use climber zip. 11 lost pause free. Its not easy task.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXzQ8dKWeLE&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

EDIT:
Here we go Taxing 28 90/100 saved pause free on snes. Only 12 attempts make this one. Its look my consistent skills got some improvement. Im not need even practice that. But hell yeah this was very tricky. But yeah its confirmed possible and yeah you can make it real SNES control and real SNES system.:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5akSi1aIm0&ab_channel=metroidmaster88
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Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
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My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
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WillLem

@MASTER88 - Well done on the Save 90! Your perseverance was rewarded eventually.

I'm not sure if that Climber glitch is possible on Amiga or WinLemm, it's certainly not possible on NeoLemmix. Either way, you've inspired me to give this one a go next time I do some Pause-free videos :thumbsup:

MASTER-88

#74
Thanks WillLem
Quote@MASTER88 - Well done on the Save 90! Your perseverance was rewarded eventually.


I pick up this game year 1994. Im just always going better
Is there is some other favorite levels yout want see my SNES playing on console and EXTREMELY HARD is allowed?
Im did something which  might look interesting
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj2YNbyy2bnaMN-LmTAKb77u

Still not understand how LemSteve find this Taxing 16 build block without pasuing????

Difficulty EXTEMELY HARD: Mayhem 29 (3 lost) & Taxin 28 (10 lost)
Very hard Catehory (Mayhem 5 (4 lost) and mayhem 9 100% and Sunsoft Spical 3 completion.
Tricky 25 Cascade 100% called category very hard
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Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
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