[NeoLemmix] Reverse Lemmings [Difficulty: All over the place]

Started by Colorful Arty, March 17, 2020, 01:27:31 PM

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Colorful Arty



Several years ago, I released my very first levelpack: Reverse Lemmings! I took the original Lemmings levelpack, swapped the entrances and exits, changed the skillsets (and occasionally the time limits and release rate), and made a new pack off of that! I was not allowed to change any terrain or objects other than swapping entrances with exits. Unfortunately, many of the levels kind of sucked and it never got ported to new formats.

Until now.

When porting to new formats, I changed pretty much every single level to have a different solution, so treat this as a completely different levelpack. Even those of you who played the original will find a new challenge with this one! One of the main changes is I'm allowing the new skills to be used, which I didn't do for the original pack.

Fair warning: this pack has virtually no difficultly curve. There will be levels in Fun and Tricky that are harder than some Mayhem levels simply due to the fact that some level really can't be that difficult without the ability to change terrain or objects. That said, I've tried my best to make the earlier ranks easier than the later ones, but my main goal was to make each level have a unique and fun solution. Also, some levels are EXTREMELY difficult. Expect a lot of frustration if you want to beat all levels and get all talismans.

The pack is attached to the post.


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WillLem

Completed nuF with all Talismans! :tal-bronze::tal-silver::tal-gold:

My gosh, you weren't kidding: these are much cheekier than the original Reverse Lemmings - had to bring a few advanced tricks out to get through these!

Still nice and playable though; managed to solve most of them on the first attempt. Looking forward to ykcirT... :thumbsup:

Strato Incendus

Thanks a lot for converting these, Arty! :thumbsup: I've been looking for an excuse to replay all the original Lemmings levels with my custom recordings of the original Lemmings tracks... without boring myself to death due to already knowing all of the solutions.

Now I have something that will look, sound, and feel like original Lemmings, but still give me some new nuts to crack! :D
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

WillLem

Quote from: Strato Incendus on March 18, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
Thanks a lot for converting these, Arty! :thumbsup: I've been looking for an excuse to replay all the original Lemmings levels with my custom recordings of the original Lemmings tracks... without boring myself to death due to already knowing all of the solutions.

Now I have something that will look, sound, and feel like original Lemmings, but still give me some new nuts to crack! :D

Reverse Lemmings is still one of my favourite NL packs: I love seeing the original game re-imagined (as is probably very obvious to most people in the community by now).

Fancy sharing the music?

Also check out these packs for new takes on the old levels if you enjoy that kind of thing! ;P

Strato Incendus

QuoteFancy sharing the music?

I already did, those are the tracks for Lemming World Tour ;) (and will also be used for Lemmings Open Air).

In order for them to play on levels using the standard Lemmings tracks, you obviously have to rename my tracks and replace the originals with them. Just make sure to back up the original files.

For playing my own packs, this isn't necessary, because the levels already refer to the custom tracks, rather than to the original ones. ;)
My packs so far:
Lemmings World Tour (New & Old Formats), my music-themed flagship pack, 320 levels - Let's Played by Colorful Arty
Lemmings Open Air, my newest release and follow-up to World Tour, 120 levels
Paralems (Old Formats), a more flavour-driven one, 150 levels
Pit Lems (Old Formats), a more puzzly one, 100 levels - Let's Played by nin10doadict
Lemmicks, a pack for (very old) NeoLemmix 1.43 full of gimmicks, 170 levels

kaywhyn

Hello @Colorful Arty,

I have solved all of the pack :thumbsup: My replays are attached. Also link to my LP: Kaywhyn's LP of Colorful Arty's Reverse Lemmings (New Formats NL). Enjoy! :P

Even though this pack is all of the L1 official levels with all exit(s) and entrance(s) swapped, I absolutely enjoyed this pack from start to finish! :thumbsup: I would agree here that this version is harder but also many times better than the SuperLemmini version you released years prior to this one :) It's been a while since I played the latter, though I will try and get video solutions up to that sometime ;) It's clear why this pack is harder, due to being on NL and how there's more options for solutions than on SuperLemmini, as this pack uses NL skills too instead of being restricted to just the classic 8 skills which SuperLemmini only supports, for example. Indeed, the difficulty jumps all over the place in each rank throughout the entire pack. Hence, there are even tough levels in both the nuF and ykcirT ranks which definitely feel out of place for the rank as a result. At the same time, there are still breathers here and there mixed in between all the difficult levels in every rank. Needless to say, the pack can't seem to make up its mind on the difficulty and hence applies "schizophrenic difficulty" according to TV Tropes  :P

If you load up the pack in NL, you will see that not only are the rank names spelled backwards, but the reading order for level titles is now from right to left instead of the normal left to right. The exact same thing goes with both the post-results victory/fail text for the levels, as well as the DMA congratulations message you get when you beat mehyaM 30 successfully, though I missed my opportunity to read it in the forward direction! :forehead: As a matter of fact, for about the first half of the LP I didn't read the level titles in the forward direction :XD: I pretty much started doing that in about the second half of the LP! :laugh: :thumbsup:     

As usual, if not bothering with the talisman (if present) then the levels are not as difficult, but some are significantly harder if going for them! Even then, a lot of them were very satisfying to figure out! :thumbsup:

Hardest levels IMO:

nuF 10, nuF 12, nuF 29, ykcirT 5, ykcirT 14 (definitely fits the level title of MENACING!! better here! ^^), ykcirT 16, ykcirT 19, ykcirT 25, ykcirT 30, gnixaT 2, gnixaT 4, gnixaT 5, gnixaT 14 (not hard but a real time cruncher), gnixaT 17, gnixaT 23 (one of the easiest levels of the pack if you don't bother with the talisman, but is a significantly harder challenge if so!), gnixaT 29, mehyaM 6, mehyaM 15, mehyaM 21, mehyaM 22, mehyaM 23 (I would consider this the hardest level of the entire pack!), and mehyaM 27

Favorite Levels

nuf 10, nuF 14, ykcirT 4, ykcirT 7, ykcirT 15, ykcirT 20 (somewhat difficult), ykcirT 22, ykcirT 23, ykcirT 30, gnixaT 1, gnixaT 3, gnixaT 7, gnixaT 9, gnixaT 15 (though more for its graphics and that it plays my favorite version of the AWESOME track, but that's because I preassigned it the PC Canadian music track :P), gnixaT 29, mehyaM 2, mehyaM 8 (would be a lot better if it wasn't really tight on time, though I acknowledge that I might had made it far tighter than it needs to be. If there's a much easier solution that allows you to finish the level comfortably with more time to spare, I would love to see it! ;)), mehyaM 13, mehyaM 16, mehyaM 18, mehyaM 20, and mehyaM 25 (see spoiler for my favorite part!)

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That's especially a very nice added touch with using a miner to tank the steel in order to make the Lemming turn back towards the exit after bridging the final gap! :thumbsup:

Well done with this pack Colorful Arty, and thank you for porting it over to NL! :thumbsup:       
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0