NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records

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Proxima

(DOS counterpart)

This topic is for compiling maximum lemmings saved records for NeoLemmix levels. This is not just limited to the NL versions of the original levels; feel free to add records for usermade packs.

It's important to be aware that, unlike the original games, NL packs may be updated by their creators/compilers at any time. To make things run more smoothly, if you have any records to share, please observe the following protocol:

* Refer to levels by name, not just position! Records without level names will not be added to the opening post.
* If possible, make sure you are playing on the latest available version of a pack at all times.
* When posting records, include the date the pack was last updated. (This will usually be the "last edited" date of its topic's opening post.)
* If possible, post replays so that your results can be verified.

I'll start the ball rolling with Lemmings Redux, now that the pack is finished. I haven't played through the entire pack yet, but I've skimmed through it to see which levels are non-100% (I may have missed some) and done my best to set a record on all the remaining levels. I feel sure that some of these can be improved!

As usual, all levels are 100% unless specifically mentioned. (If cloners are available, "100%" means the total of lemmings + cloners, and any less than this will be noted.)

Lemmings Redux
Spoiler
Gentle

3 Tailor-made for blockers 17/20
6 A task for bombers 18/20

Quirky

2 It's Lemmingentry, Watson 9/10
10 The Needs of the Many... 10/15
21 The Long Way Around 29/30
24 Lunch time 28/30

Zany

6 Compression Method 1 36/40
10 Flow Control 17/21
11 LeMming ToMato KetchUp fAcilitY 28/30
13 Don't leave any lemmings 29/30
17 Lemming Lament 26/30
23 ONWARD AND UPWARD 37/40

Manic

10 ROCKY VI 39/40
15 THE SILENCE OF THE LEMMINGS 38/40
23 Old MacDonald Had a Farm... 38/40
28 Out, away from the tune 29/30
30 POOR WEE CREATURES! 33/50
32 Temple of Love 29/30

Lunatic

2 The Boiler Room 49/50
7 Down, along, up, in that order 36/40
20 No hurry, relax. 14/30
21 The Steel Mines of Kessel 44/50
25 Watch right or left (Part Two) 19/20
29 Save Me 47/50

Original Lemmings levels
Spoiler
Lemmings: Fun

3 Tailor-made for blockers 47/50
6 A task for bombers 48/50
18 Let's block and blow 65/70

Lemmings: Tricky

15 Ozone friendly lemmings 7/10
16 Luvly Jubly 46/50
17 Diet Lemmingaid 48/50
18 It's Lemmingentry Watson 9/10
23 From the Boundary Line 99/100

Lemmings: Taxing

6 Compression Method 1 46/50
7 Every Lemming for himself!!! 99/100
19 Bomboozal 65/70
27 Call in the bomb squad 97/100
28 POOR WEE CREATURES! 83/100

Lemmings: Mayhem

2 The Boiler Room 99/100
5 Down, along, up. In that order 76/80
10 Pillars of Hercules 72/75
19 Time to get up! 47/50
26 The Steel Mines of Kessel 94/100
29 Save Me 97/100

PSP Lemmings

4 Block first, Explode second 16/20
13 Chain reaction 20/25
21 Seeing double! 11/12
26 Back of the net! 19/20
28 Float in Light, at Lemming Head Height 2/3
34 Born a blocker, die a blocker 1/10

2-player levels

All levels solved with 100%!

Other levels

4 Lemming Lament 46/50




Dodochacalo's packs

DoveLems
Spoiler
Plain

4 For the Honour 26/30
5 Swallow Me! 14/20
11 Concentration Camp 6/10
20 Wooden House 19/20
28 Here's the Final Flourish 60/100
29 Papuan Mask 28/30

Coward

2 Toes of the Earth 29/30
3 Impolite Climbers 19/20
5 Avoid the FlameThrower 19/20
6 Under the Floor 39/40
7 City Machines Lemmings 39/40
8 Break the Wall 39/40
11 Every Lem for Himself ! 49/50
12 To Infinity and BEYOND !!! 45/50
15 Strato and Cumulus 39/40
16 Trident of Fire 39/40
20 It's Not an Illusion ! 43/50
21 Death Camp 29/30
23 Ask the Oracle 47/50
25 Academy of Eight 6/7
28 Valley of Chameleons 78/80




Geoffster's packs

GeoffLems
Spoiler
Fun

3 Drumsticks 18/20
9 Means To An End 17/20

Tricky

4 The Belltower 37/40
8 Obstacle 48/50
9 Short Controlled Bursts 18/20
10 Break on Through? 19/20
12 House of Pancakes 99/100
18 Fort Lemmington 49/50
19 Wire Cutters 24/30
23 Enclosure 39/40
25 The Yungas Road 29/30
27 Hot Chip 8/10

Taxing

1 The Pit and the Pendulum 18/20
5 Smuggler's Run 48/50
6 Containment 19/20
7 Mondrian 18/20
8 Magic Bus 47/50
9 Donut Level 79/80
14 Bad Cover Level 19/20
17 Lemmington Abbey 39/40
19 Desperados 16/20
24 Up We Go 8/12
29 Hangar B 17/20
30 Tabula Rasa 76/100




mantha16's packs

Sammings
Spoiler
Snow

2 Go Frost Yourself 39/40
6 Slush Fund 39/40

Pillar

1 Upright Citizen 37/40
2 Serial Pillar 37/40
3 Pillar Whale 39/40
6 I Column Like I see Them 49/50
8 Column Let's Vogue 37/40

Bubble

8 Sorry to Burst Your Bubble 16/20

Marble

1 Don't take me for Granite 30/40
5 Ruddy Marblellous 19/20
6 Don't Take Life for Granite 19/20
8 It's Sedimentary my Dear Watson 59/60




Namida's packs

Doomsday Lemmings
Spoiler
Outbreak

6 Cursed Affliction 18/19
7 Undead Dipper 47/48

Lemmings Plus I
Spoiler
Mild

22 Blow Down 19/25

Wimpy

4 Saviour 79/80
29 Russian Rescue 79/80

Medi

4 Getting There... 48/50
5 Safety Blast 77/80
15 Shooting Star 38/40
16 Grounded! 17/20
17 Six Feet Under 56/60
20 The Diving Board 58/60
21 As It Burns Away... 76/80
25 Wall of Wisdom 64/80
27 Take A Dive 48/50
28 Way Up High 19/20
29 Lemmingsense 78/80
30 Consider Everything... 79/80

Danger

1 Inside Outside 10/15
3 Backdraft 18/20
9 With A Quirk Or Two... 48/50
13 Breakthrough! 56/60
15 Circular Wavelength 79/80
16 The Oddstack 65/70
26 With Love, From Trogdor 55/60
27 The Deadly Climb 3/5
28 Coalburner 74/80
30 The Hideout 79/80

Psycho

2 The Parking Lot 49/50
3 Express Lane 11/12
4 Think Outside the Square! 12/15
5 Lightspeed Lemming 73/80
7 Turn Back With Care 78/80
8 Snowed In! 72/80
9 Coalburner (Part II) 73/80
10 What Did You Expect? 77/80
11 Three Birds With One Stone 77/80
13 Go High Go Low 58/60
17 Meeting Spot 18/20
21 KAMIKAZE!!! 77/80
23 Death Row 73/80
24 Gone In A Flash 15/20
25 Bullet Lemming 79/80
26 Oblivion 19/20
30 Hellfire! 76/80

Lemmings Plus II
Spoiler
Nice

3 The Downwards Mission 47/50
16 These Lasers Aren't So Fun... 99/100

Cheeky

2 Double Dipping 19/20
6 Raindrop Lemming 198/250
9 Oh Snap... 63/75
12 Horror Tree 24/25
13 Above The Forests 45/50
15 To The Treehouse 24/25
16 Placement Testing 42/50
19 The Road To Nowhere 44/45
20 Kickback Scheme 49/50

Lemmings Plus Omega
Spoiler
Breezy

2 Totally Original Stoner Level 47/50
4 Attack Of The Clones 5/6
11 Stones In The Sky 46/50
28 Traptastic! 49/50

Puzzling

11 Backwards Solution 18/25
19 A Split Task 19/21
23 Eco-Friendly Lemmings 8/10




Nessy's packs

Lemmings Migration
Spoiler
Painless

3 A Bridge Over The Chasm 19/20
8 Playground 23/25

Irritation

1 Dreamscape 54/55
6 Path To The Underground 48/50
7 Frozen Climbers 24/25
9 Cringe Comedy 79/80
10 Mandatory Curfew Initiated 79/80

Headache

1 Crawl Space 49/50
2 Next Floor Has Been Shut Down 72/75
4 Pseudoscience 72/80
9 Mountain Tribe 59/60
10 Nosebleed 46/50




WillLem's packs

Lemminas
Spoiler
Lemminas
All levels solved with 100%!

Lemmings DD
Spoiler
Lemmings DD

Tricky 5, One Way Dropping To Freedom 49/50
Tricky 6, Dropping From The Boundary Line 99/100
Taxing 3, Compression Method DD 101/103
Taxing 7, Drop In To My Place 49/50
Mayhem 2, Call In The Drop Squad 69/100
Mayhem 4, With A Drop Of Lemming Please 49/50

MiniLems
Spoiler
MiniLems

Tricky 8, Diet Lemmingaid 28/30
Taxing 4, Compression Method 1 27/30
Taxing 15, Call in the bomb squad 25/30
Mayhem 2, The Boiler Room 29/30

namida

Lunatic 16 "Sega Four" on Redux is 100%able. (EDIT: Looks like you caught this slightly before I did.)
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

namida

#2
Quirky 29 "Tension Sheet, Good Idea" is also 100%able.

Spoiler
If your question on Discord earlier was for this level - what you were missing, was considering adding a 3rd skill into the equation, specifically a blocker.

This replay was made using the V12.8.0-RC but I'd be very surprised if it doesn't work on V12.7.X, as there should be no physics differences between them.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

namida

Zany 10 "Flow Control" improved to save-17.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

namida

Manic 27 "Watch Your Fingertip", 100%ed. This is actually quite simple compared to the previous ones.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

namida

Manic 32 "Temple of Love" improved to save-29.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

namida

Lunatic 20 "No Hurry, Relax" improved to save 14. Normal solution, it's just a matter of fiddling with the exact positionings of a few skills.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

namida

#7
Lunatic 21 "The Steel Mines Of Kessel" improved to save-44. I considered a few ideas for save-45 but I don't think any of them are workable with only 10 builders.

If there's any more improvements possible in Redux, I can't see how - I think this is the last one from me.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

ccexplore

Zany 22 SNOW JOKE 100% still basically works in Redux.

ccexplore

#9
Confirmed Manic 15 THE SILENCE OF THE LEMMINGS save 38.  This is actually somewhat significant because IIRC, there are a number of lose-2 solutions previously reported for DOS Lemmings (I know of at least 3) that all happened to use (each different) behaviors that don't work the same on NeoLemmix (thus rendering the solution inoperable in NeoLemmix).  It seems like this NeoLemmix solution can potentially be back-ported to work on DOS Lemmings, but does that correspond to an already previously reported solution for DOS Lemmings, I'm not sure.

ccexplore

Manic 23 (Old MacDonald...) improved to 38.  I never actually played the DOS version of level, so no idea whether the record there is lose 2; if not then it almost certainly should be.

Proxima

The DOS record is lose 2 but it relies on direct drop, so I guess I gave up too quickly looking for a lose-2 solution in NL. :P

namida

Redux is probably getting close to completed, so, I'm going to start looking at Lemmings Plus I. Here's my results up to Danger 15 (inclusive).

Mild 22 "Blow Down" - 19/25

Wimpy 4 "Saviour" - 79/80
Wimpy 29 "Russian Rescue" - 79/80

Medi 4 "Getting There" - 48/50
Medi 5 "Safety Blast" - 77/80
Medi 15 "Shooting Star" - 38/40
Medi 16 "Grounded!" - 17/20
Medi 17 "Six Feet Under" - 56/60
Medi 20 "The Diving Board" - 57/60
Medi 21 "As It Burns Away..." - 76/80
Medi 25 "Wall of Wisdom" - 64/80
Medi 27 "Take A Dive" - 48/50
Medi 28 "Way Up High" - 19/20
Medi 29 "Lemmingsense" - 77/80
Medi 30 "Consider Everything..." - 79/80

Danger 1 "Inside Outside" - 10/15
Danger 3 "Backdraft" - 16/20
Danger 9 "With A Quirk Or Two..." - 48/50
Danger 13 "Breakthrough!" - 56/60
Danger 15 "Circular Wavelength" - 77/80

All iterations of No Salvation are 100%able. All others up to Danger 15 are 100%able.

Replays attached for:
- Mild 19 "Up To Where They Go", save-all
- Wimpy 12 "Only One Place To Go", save-all
- Medi 30 "Consider Everything", save 79
- Danger 8 "Cavern Of Chills", save-all
- Danger 13 "Breakthrough", save 56
- Danger 14 "Death In All Directions", save-all
- Psycho 29 "No Salvation V", save-all - should work on all other iterations of No Salvation too
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Proxima

#13
I had a quick look through the rest of Danger, skipping over 16 as it looks too complex for late-night :P My results:

21 It's The Latest Craze! 19/20
23 Lair Of The Fallen Lemming 78/80
26 With Love, From Trogdor 55/60
27 The Deadly Climb 2/5
28 Coalburner 74/80
30 The Hideout 79/80

Replay attached for 100% on Danger 21.

namida

The best I can achieve for Danger 16 "The Oddstack" is 65/70.

Losses
1 lemming falls out the bottom (no useful spare skills to save or repurpose him), 3 bombers, 1 unsaveable blocker.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)