Revenge of the Lemmings (conversion to v12.7) community help appreciated :)

Turrican · February 12, 2022, 11:10:42 PM

I have tried the latest test levels , and here are the replays of my solutions!

Pretty nice levels , again! My favourites of these are "Illusive Paths" , "Stop , look and listen" , and "Everyone but the bomber" .

mobius · February 13, 2022, 03:21:44 AM

excellent!

The only serious back route is Illusive Paths; I'll have to take a closer look at that one....

Everyone but the bomber; I solved it a simpler way. That

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basher/blocker trick you used was pretty crazy!

mobius · February 15, 2022, 02:11:51 AM

a fix for Illusive Paths also trying a possible alteration to make the timing easier on the intended solution but its subject to change.

And Pipeworks is a new level that I passed over initially cause I thought it was too easy... ~~but turns out I can't even solve it [I may be overlooking something really simple]~~
So I can solve this level without the 4:00 time limit, but with.

kaywhyn · February 15, 2022, 04:10:44 AM

How's this for beating Pipeworks way under 4 minutes?

Seriously though, I have a feeling this isn't intended in any way

mobius · February 25, 2022, 02:27:03 AM

quick update: Getting much closer now. Backroute and final testing is almost complete. I have a majority of the replays recorded and I'm currently working on the level order. I'm really hoping to release in just a few more weeks.

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ok here's one more random level I could never solve; anyone know a solution?

kaywhyn · February 25, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Quote from: mobius on February 25, 2022, 02:27:03 AM
ok here's one more random level I could never solve; anyone know a solution?

Yup, replay attached. This was a pretty tough one, and interestingly took me only a good 5 minutes to think about, but ultimately

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The miner is simply used as a delay, hence the level title. I thought he would hit the steel so that the splatform would be done for him on time, but apparently he doesn't, and it finished just in the nick of time and is low enough to not make him splat.

Also, I did get your Discord DM regarding testing, but as I didn't respond to it from a while back and it sounds like testing is almost done, I won't be needed for that anymore? If you could still use some more pre-testers, I'll likely have a better answer for you in a day or so.

mobius · February 26, 2022, 03:29:14 AM

I ended up going through Fleech's whole levelset (which I did long, long ago but couldn't solve any of the levels back then or knew much about them) Now I've solved;
Send in the specialists, How to Kill a Lemming, and hypothermia. I have not solved the other two. Any replays or feedback is appreciated.

mobius · March 05, 2022, 12:39:21 AM

quick update: I really am done selecting levels this time [and I swear i really am this time]. Working on the finishing touches; level order, sorting replays and the music and readme file. I'm hoping to release it within a few weeks

mobius · March 11, 2022, 01:26:18 AM

all my major issues have been solved so its finally getting very close now. Basically its just going over some final details; making sure the pack works and plays properly.

mobius · March 12, 2022, 03:14:27 AM

So here's a question I could take some honest feedback on:

I've gotten another idea; since there are so many levels to deal with in total and this pack alone has 240, what if I broke it up into two or more smaller packs? This would also leave open the possibility of including some of the "outtake" levels and for releasing more packs in the future; as I mentioned before; there are still many more levels to look at from Lemmix and Cheapo and maybe other places too.

kaywhyn · March 12, 2022, 11:39:14 PM

Quote from: mobius on March 12, 2022, 03:14:27 AM
So here's a question I could take some honest feedback on:

I've gotten another idea; since there are so many levels to deal with in total and this pack alone has 240, what if I broke it up into two or more smaller packs? This would also leave open the possibility of including some of the "outtake" levels and for releasing more packs in the future; as I mentioned before; there are still many more levels to look at from Lemmix and Cheapo and maybe other places too.

Personally, I don't mind whether it stays as one huge 240-level pack or if it becomes multiple smaller packs, though honestly I'm leaning towards the latter since I do think 240 levels is a lot for one pack. Then again, I think the Lix community pack is also 240 levels, and it being 240 levels long isn't really a major issue with me. It just simply means that it will take some time to play through it all from start to finish, even with many of the levels I've already played from the Lemmini version of the pack. So, really it's up to you. I guess if there's multiple packs then I'm wondering how the community would be with numbering them as sequel packs, such as RotL 2 and so on. Of course, titles of the future smaller packs don't have to be this way. I can't think of any good titles, though, as I'm so bad with naming things in general

chrisleec728 · March 12, 2022, 11:56:40 PM

Also, it definitely wouldn't be the longest pack as Lemmings World Tour has 320 levels, so there's that comparison.

kaywhyn · March 13, 2022, 01:27:41 AM

Quote from: chrisleec728 on March 12, 2022, 11:56:40 PM
Also, it definitely wouldn't be the longest pack as Lemmings World Tour has 320 levels, so there's that comparison.

Yes, but that's not the point. It has more to do with how I think after a certain number of levels I consider the pack pretty big, although it's like I said, I don't mind either way whether RotL stays at 240 levels or if it's broken into multiple smaller packs. Based on discussions elsewhere, it seems that mobius has made up his mind and will be releasing it as one big 240 level pack.