Level Design Contest #19 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

[IchoTolot]

All zips only need to be unzipped inside the main folder of your NeoLemmix Player!

NeoLemmix Level Pack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k9ai63fv7k215fx/Contest_19.zip?dl=1

Music: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gbfs5ueuo9p438/Contest_19_music.zip?dl=1

Styles+Sound: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ywpxty4mne0gdg7/Contest_19_sound%2Bstyles.zip?dl=1


Rule 1 Levels

Armani's "Supernova" (V2)
Crane's "T.E.E.T.H." (V3)
Flopsy's "Fun With Flags" (V1)
Namida's "Reach-Around" (V4)
NieSch's "Perpetuum Mobilem" (V2)
Willem's "Day Of The Daredevils! Part I" (V1)

Rule 2 Levels

IchoTolot's "It's The Name Of The Fame" (V1)

Rule 3 Levels

Armani's "I'll be back for sure" (V2)
Crane's "S.C.R.O.O.G.E." (V5)
Dullstar's "Shimmier Sort" (V6)
Flopsy's "Who Ya Gonna Call? Knuckles The Echidna!" (V11)
IchoTolot's "Xeno Menace" (V2)
NieSch's "Me, Myself and I" (V3)
SQron188's "Liandri Ironworks & Nuclear Fission" (V1)
Willem's "Day Of The Daredevils! Part II" (V1)

Withdrawn levels

Flopsy's "Who Wants To Be The Flopsy?" (V1)

You can check the rules details again here: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4509.0

Playing Phase will be closed on 3rd of Februrary!
Updates will close on 1st of Februrary!

Note: This topic is for posting your comments, replays, etc for the levels. If you wish to post an update to your level, or enter a late submission, please do so in the Updates Topic instead.

[NieSch]

Wow, some impressive levels!

Only one rule 2 level. I didn't expect that. Well, 1,5 really since Willem's level(s) is a bit of all in one. It's also the first level I was able to solve. I'm talking about Willem's "Day Of The Daredevils! Part I" (V1) It's not difficult but I like it!

Edit: I also solved Crane's "T.E.E.T.H." (V1)

[NieSch]

(Probably) backroutes for Namida's "Reach-Around" (V1) and Dullstar's "Shimmier Sort" (V1):

[Crane]

T.E.E.T.H. is intended - well done.  P.S. See if you can guess what it stands for!

[Flopsy]

I'm planning on streaming the contest levels in a couple of weeks when the updates have died down. I'll let you know when I know more details.

Also, to clear up any confusion on why I have a withdrawn level. I made a level for all 3 rules but I already submitted to R2 so I asked to have R1 and R3 instead. However, I said the level could be posted anyway in case anyone wanted to play it anyway, especially in contest videos/streams.

[namida]

(Probably) backroutes for Namida's "Reach-Around" (V1) and Dullstar's "Shimmier Sort" (V1):

Backroute indeed for my level; I've uploaded an update that should fix this.

[Armani]

It seems like I got a two weeks' furlough at just the right time

@Crane

Spoiler

T.E.E.T.H.
It was quite easy and also entertaining level.

S.C.R.O.O.G.E.
Nice combination of all three kinds of lemmings : normal, zombie, neutral
I attached two solutions for this level. First one got talisman and save some skills so I guess this might be a backroute. And second one, I used all the skills and looks more intended to me.

@Flopsy

Spoiler

Fun With Flags
At first, I was quite surprised to see some lemmings died with 'LET'S GO' sound!
It was enjoyable level and I was stumped for a while and I think the position of the builder was the key to solve this level.

Who Ya Gonna Call? Knuckles The Echidna!
I din't use a shimmier and a platformer so this can be a backroute I think. But letting neutral lemmings to gather pickup skills and to activate the buttons are so creative! I like the concept of this level!

Who Wants To Be The Flopsy?
It was quite challenging. I could see how strong the stoner skill is in this level.

In general, all your levels used tilisets that I have never seen before. It was really fun to play. I like the cute ghosts in your rule3 level especially.

@Namida

Spoiler

Reach-Around
I think I backrouted this level. (Attached replay is for V2)

@NieSch

Spoiler

Perpetuum Mobilem
This level remind me your previous level "The Yippee Finale" from your pack Not that difficult but it has some clever trick in it and I like that

Me, Myself and I
I made several attempts on this level but had no luck yet. Attached replay is my best attempt that could had been successful if 5 more seconds is given

@Willem

Spoiler

Day Of The Daredevils!
Beautiful looking level! I didn't use a miner for your part2 level so this can be a minor backroute maybe??

IchoTolot

Spoiler

It's The Name Of The Fame
Wow this level is so creative I must say. When I assigned cloner+walker to a  shimmy lemming, I wish I could see the path of the glider when walker is assigned.(like I can see expected path when assigning glider). But this is just my opinion and not a comment on this level I really enjoyed the level itself

Xeno Menace
Oh man, This tileset looks scary. Still, I like the level and skills used in this level!

Dullstar

Spoiler

Shimmier Sort
My solution seems really backrouty

SQron188

Spoiler

Liandri Ironworks & Nuclear Fission
I guess my solution is intended. Using stackers to make turn around point for gliders is so clever

[namida]

Yep, that's another backroute for my level.

[Dullstar]

Both solutions to Shimmier Sort are backroutes. It doesn't really surprise me that there are egregious backroutes in the level - I'm pretty out of practice with level creation and I rushed it a bit to finish it up before the deadline.

EDIT: An updated version of the level is available.

[Flopsy]

Thanks Armani for playing my levels, especially the withdrawn one

Fun With Flags is exactly as intended, glad it at least stumped you for a while.

Who Ya Gonna Call is a back route though, I've uploaded v2 to the update topic.

Who Wants To Be The Flopsy is acceptable, I guess I chose to withdraw the right level because this level would be really hectic to fix. Sadly this isn't exactly as intended but enough of the skills were used to be acceptable.

[IchoTolot]

@Armani

Both solutions to my levels are intended/acceptable variants! great job!

My rule 2 level is kinda open anyway as long as it's no glaring break from the somewhat intended path.

I wish I could see the path of the glider when walker is assigned.(like I can see expected path when assigning glider).

Already ahead of you as i had the same issue : https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4541.0

Oh man, This tileset looks scary. Still, I like the level and skills used in this level!

You also need to give credit to SQron here then, as he created the tileset.

[Flopsy]

I will be streaming the contest levels on Sunday 12th January at the usual time when we do multiplayer stuff (7pm UTC), this will give plenty of time for the updates to be ironed out.

I'll give a reminder closer to the time

[NieSch]

Thanks for the kind and helpful feedback Armani. It's incredible how fast you come up with al these solutions.

@NieSch

Spoiler

Perpetuum Mobilem
This level remind me your previous level "The Yippee Finale" from your pack Not that difficult but it has some clever trick in it and I like that

Me, Myself and I
I made several attempts on this level but had no luck yet. Attached replay is my best attempt that could had been successful if 5 more seconds is given

Spoiler

Your solution to "Perpetuum Mobilem" is intended. Well done.
I'm glad that "Me, Myself and I" is giving you more of a challenge. I'm sure you will find a solution soon.

[Crane]

Hey Armani - thanks for testing the levels.  T.E.E.T.H. is intended - well done.  Both of the S.C.R.O.O.G.E. solutions are backroutes, so I'll have to have a think about that one.

[NieSch]

About Armani's "Supernova":

Spoiler

Aaaargh! I have tried so many times now but I still  haven't solved the level. I was so close... With two more seconds I would have made it.