[NeoLemmix] Lemmings United [Difficulty: Hard-Extreme]

[Armani]

I solved some more levels of neutrality.

Here's my solution for rest of the levels and my best attempts so far for level 32 and 41.

I have downloaded and played three or four other packs from the forum and I feel lemmings united is the toughest among them.

Can you recommend me some easier packs for me to build up more skills?

I'm afraid to start tension level for now.

[IchoTolot]

I solved some more levels of neutrality.

Here's my solution for rest of the levels and my best attempts so far for level 32 and 41.

I have downloaded and played three or four other packs from the forum and I feel lemmings united is the toughest among them.

Can you recommend me some easier packs for me to build up more skills?

I'm afraid to start tension level for now.

All solutions are either intended or acceptable alternatives! Good job.

For 32:

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Your first part is correct, but the 2nd part is still wrong.

For 41:

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You've nearly got it! You are missing 1 already known trick that can save you another destructive skill and then it should be easy mode.

For easier packs that are still pretty be challenging in the later ranks I could recommend the classic packs DoveLems and PimoLems packs from Dodochacalo and Pieuw that I did the NL conversions for. Also the Lemmings Plus series is always worth a peek, the earlier entries are usually the easiest ones there.

If you still want it challenging but not yet United challenging I could also recommend my earlier work: Lemmings Reunion. It's still quite hard, but not United hard. Let's say Neutrality is already ~4th rank territory there.

[Armani]

Thanks a lot.

I'll play your recommendation packs and come back to play tension levels

My last two solutions for Neutrality.

[IchoTolot]

Both solutions are exactly intended.

[Armani]

I solved several levels of Tension rank before returning to base.

I'm really enjoying your pack

I love all those new tricks and challenging puzzle levels.

Here I attached my solution replays.

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0303 - I had hard time solving this level since I din't notice the pickup skill inside the terrain. I clear this level as soon as I turned off the physics mode.
0305 - If this is the intended way, toughest level so far for me. Especially on how to release the crowd at the end.
0306 - Maybe I backrouted this. I din't use digger between the steel structure to go downstair which seems to be the key point of the level.
0308 - My favorite level so far:)
0313 - Another backroute maybe. I didn't use a disarmer and a basher. The replay is quite long.(21minutes)
0315,0318 - Last cloner was used only to increase the # of lemmings but I think these are acceptable solutions.
I'm stuck on 0310 and 0317, but I think I've figured out the major trick of the levels so I can clear them myself later.

[IchoTolot]

V 7.7 is out!

The following levels have received a backroute fix:

- 3 13 (a platformer is now a pickup skill)
- 3 14 (added some steel)
- 3 15 (added some steel)

The following levels have received technical fixes:

- 3 03 (fixed some visuals)
- 4 24 (readded the pickup skills as the old ones were unviable)

@Armani thanks for the replays.

I hope I made the pick-up skill on top (I hope it was displayed on top for you) of the terrain in 3 03 more noticable with a green bush. In the process I also found a few misplaced steel blocks as well. You see the caused backroutes in the fixes. The rest were either intended or acceptable variants (for example there is an easier way to release the crowd on 3 05).

[IchoTolot]

V 7.8 is out!

The following levels have received technical fixes:

- 4 24 (changed to the default pickup skills)

[IchoTolot]

V 7.9 is out!

Pack is made fit for 12.7.0! Changes:

The zip is now to be extracted in the main NL folder instead of inside the levels folder.

New levels:

- 6 08 (the levels afterwards are therefore 1 position further below now)
- 6 15 (the levels afterwards are therefore 1 position further below now)

The following levels have received technical fixes:

- 6 28 (changed to the default pickup skills)
- Some circuit levels were manually changed from a duplicated piece inside the style to the main one.

Visual fixes, because of the fire pit graphic change:

- 1 03
- 2 07
- 2 28
- 4 28
- 6 25

The levels were not cleansed yet as this still seems a bit buggy in terms of pack structure.

[IchoTolot]

V 8.0 is out!

Levels cleansed.

[namida]

Solved two more levels.

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Neutrality 32 "Machines of our Disgrace" - Very nice level; this stumped me a while back and took me quite a while to solve when I came back to it.

Neutrality 33 "Like a Sandworm" - Also a nice level, but much easier than the last; I solved it almost right away.

[IchoTolot]

Both replays are 100% intended.

And yes, 32 is a little roadblock placed by me along the way.    

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With the additional intend to show of that digger/stacker interaction.

[Armani]

I'm back here to play this pack!

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Tension19  Vertigo : One builder was no enough to cross that gap at the middle and this gave me a huge hint to solve the level. I also like the way of using miner at the end.
Tension20  Totally Stoned : Some nice decoy terrain and water gap!
Tension21  Dragon Slayer : Exact posiont of the miner was the key to this level I think.
Tension22  Mindshell : I think this level is totally depends on whether player notice the trick at the very beginning and I was lucky to find it early.
Tension23  Dare to Share : This levels was a little bit easy than other levels since the positions of the two miners were quite obvious.
Tension24  Construct Additional Pylons! : To be honest, I'm not a big fan of large constructive skill-heavy level but I really enjoy this level because I'm a BIG fan of Starcraft series
Tension25  Step Up!(or Don't) : Simple but contains clever trick and I like that
Tension26  Let Us Out! : I guess I backrouted this level since the last two cloners were used meaninglessly and didn't use a climber.
Tension27  Step it Down! : This one is my favorite among the levels today I didn't need difficult and complex tricks to solve the level but still the level was challenging and need to think hard!
Tension28  Backyard Garden : I think I solve this level easily since I was planning to make a similar level for the contest(but give up in the end:P)
Tension29  Tomb of Ichot'olot : I'm not sure if my solution is intended or not because the last basher had to be used very precisely.
Tension30  Just Do It Up : I have some left over skills. Seems acceptable variance ? or not I'm not sure
Tension31  Locked in : Wow this level is so good and I really enjoy and had fun playing this level.
Tension32  Awakening of Agressions : I guess the position of the digger was very important in this level to send a pioneer lemming.
Tension33  Eyes in the Dark : I solve this level easily since the position of the stoner and miner(with cloner) seems obvious.

[Armani]

Solved 5 more levels.

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Tension34  Forgotten Refinery : I think this level is very fiddly to execute(of course in case that my solution is intended) Or I may overlooked something obvious. Anyway I solved the level
Tension35  Oh, it's Irresistible! : Nice little puzzle level I can see many levels that clever positioning of miner is required in your pack and I like that as miner is one of my favorite lemmings skills.
Tension36  Monachopsis : Seems a lot easier than the levels in same rank.
Tension37  This Dome is Our Home : At first, I thought this level is impossible to solve and I was wrong. Was a really cool level!
Tension38  The Machine : How can you make such an simple but at the same time challenging puzzle level? When I was to make a challenging level, the level usually become very nasty and looks uninteresting

[IchoTolot]

V 8.1 is out!

Some backroute fixes based on Armani's replays:

- 3 26 (has now 2 new pickup-skills and a water pit)
- 3 34 (made a water gap wider)

Comments:

Tension26  Let Us Out! : This is a problematic level to fix, but I hope this will at least push it a little bit in the right direction
Tension29  Tomb of Ichot'olot : Let's say it's an acceptable alternative, but your precision is not needed in the intended route.

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Your early sacrifice is the reason you made your life harder in the end part.

Tension30  Just Do It Up: You basically found a more efficient challenge route. I will accept this though.
Tension34  Forgotten Refinery : Let's say after the fix you should need to get back to the drawing board here.     This level needed quite a few fixes already!

Again, thanks for the nice comments and feedback!

[Armani]

Looks like no backroutes today
Today's levels were aesthetically pleasing especially boss level of the rank looks beautiful

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Tension39  Double Vortex : I like the concept of the level. Each crowd had to gather pick up skills for the other crowd. I save one more lemming than required and I think there's no problem increase the save requirement by 1.
Tension40  Deviate! : This level is my new favorite level of this pack. I really enjoyed the level. The two specialists(swimmer and disarmer) crossed the whole map to make safe path for the crowd
Tension41  The Igniting Spark : I could see some nice skills with stoners! Changing the direction of a falling lemming, making a unidirectional path, combining with bomber to make a staircase etc.

Can't wait to play next rank