Lemmings Forums Level Contest #16 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

Started by IchoTolot, January 15, 2019, 06:17:47 PM

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Crane

I'm losing hope with this level.  That last backroute almost completely broke the level.

IchoTolot

Resolved the level.

I think this is a classical case of: You cannot enforce A without allowing B.

I suspect the problem is the starting part. I would suggest changing the intended route of the start part to something more easily enforcable. You can use nearly every skill here in a somewhat helping way, so this is backroute heaven from the get go. Sometimes the intended route needs to be adapted in order for the rest of the intended tricks to be enforced, I think this could be such a case.
I would also guess that the most elegant part of the level is located in the 2nd part.

Crane

I know the level is not going to win - it's far too convoluted and obviously full of patch-jobs.  I've got no more energy to keep fighting the losing battle.



IchoTolot


mobius

everything by me: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5982.msg96035#msg96035

"Not knowing how near the truth is, we seek it far away."
-Hakuin Ekaku

"I have seen a heap of trouble in my life, and most of it has never come to pass" - Mark Twain



mobius

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/371532732##
played a little more today
(Cran's, Ichos and Arty's level(s)

Quote from: SQron188 on January 27, 2019, 10:35:22 AM

Quote from: mobius on January 27, 2019, 02:11:13 AM
https://www.twitch.tv/callmebronco4511/videos

streamed a few of the levels today^

Thanks, man.
Just to be sure that no videos went missing, you didn't play anything after Sunset Sprint, right?

that's right
everything by me: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5982.msg96035#msg96035

"Not knowing how near the truth is, we seek it far away."
-Hakuin Ekaku

"I have seen a heap of trouble in my life, and most of it has never come to pass" - Mark Twain


Crane

I admit I'm kind of surprised at how much trouble "Two's company..." gave you.  I guess it goes to show that the solution may not always be obvious to anyone who isn't the level's designer.

mobius

solved Icho's rank 1 level

Spoiler

-art and design was excellent, lots of fun to play out. Was able to solve it as I went along, the solution felt neat and organic. Didn't feel like a backroute.

-I have to say however a point or two is lost because the background is way too light and distracting! Seeing what is solid and not is often difficult. I don't like having to use true physics mode constantly. (Either darken the background or lighten the foreground). Other than that the art style is pleasing.
everything by me: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5982.msg96035#msg96035

"Not knowing how near the truth is, we seek it far away."
-Hakuin Ekaku

"I have seen a heap of trouble in my life, and most of it has never come to pass" - Mark Twain


IchoTolot

Ok, after the images haven been uploaded to the NL site. I will ready up and start the voting.