Lemmings Forums Level Contest #15 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

[geoo]

Surprisingly for such a small level, Forestidia's solution is a backroute (which might have made it more fiddly than necessary). I'll fix it by increasing the spawn interval a little and post an update. Nepster's solution is intended, modulo a minor difference which I don't care too much about.
Icho's solutions are the same as the Forestidia's and Nepster's solution.

I've solved Proxima's level. Wasn't immediately obvious (also, the fall looks a bit like a splat fall due to the large zoom), but I managed. Nice one.

[Ryemanni]

Ah crap. It was so long I forgot what rule 2 was actually about. I will fix this.

[Forestidia86]

I have another solution to geoo's level. I got part of it spoiled but

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in this variant I don't jump over the blocker.

[IchoTolot]

Alright fixed my replays again.

[Nepster]

Comment on your solution to my R1 level:

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In detail using the builder first at the top-middle (you have to turn around with the following platformer as a result) and starting the platformer to the middle left higher+early and not going to the very left as a result made your life much harder.

You got it totally wrong!

Using the builder first at the top middle, i.e. whether the lemming turns around is totally irrelevant. And starting the platformer at the middle-left higher was actually totally required, otherwise this lemming turns around and then comes much too late after the non-glider to glide to the exit platform.
Actually the most problematic part was the middle very-right lemming: The platformer-builder-platformer combo was necessary for him to be fast enough to glide to the exit. Otherwise the non-glider places too many bricks of the very last platform for him to get to the exit.

Do you have a replay for this other solution you're thinking of?

See attachment for a less perfectly optimized one that fails due to about 1-1,5 seconds.

Now the promised comments on the Rank 1 levels:

Colorful Arty

There can be only one Final Frustration! Very nice 10-of-all level!

Flopsy

Both my solutions feel a bit hackish and not nearly clean enough for my taste.

Nessy

Rather easy in V1 (haven't looked at the fix yet), so likely (partial) backroutes.

[IchoTolot]

Comment on your solution to my R1 level:

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In detail using the builder first at the top-middle (you have to turn around with the following platformer as a result) and starting the platformer to the middle left higher+early and not going to the very left as a result made your life much harder.

You got it totally wrong!

Using the builder first at the top middle, i.e. whether the lemming turns around is totally irrelevant. And starting the platformer at the middle-left higher was actually totally required, otherwise this lemming turns around and then comes much too late after the non-glider to glide to the exit platform.
Actually the most problematic part was the middle very-right lemming: The platformer-builder-platformer combo was necessary for him to be fast enough to glide to the exit. Otherwise the non-glider places too many bricks of the very last platform for him to get to the exit.

Well if you simply

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don't use The platformer-builder-platformer combo and (as I suggested) do the builder 2nd with the non-glider lem

then there wouldn't be timing issues.

But I think I simply pm you the replay.

[IchoTolot]

Resolved Flopsy's R1 level.

[IchoTolot]

The levels are resolved.

I think I am a lot closer now in Nessy's levels and I really dig my found solutions, great levels.

And I saved all on Flopsy's level now -- maybe change the intended way to my solution if it's more elegant. I did that quite a few times myself and here you won't have to deal with fixing in Rule 1 anymore.

[IchoTolot]

And resolved.

[IchoTolot]

Resolved Crane's R3 level.

[Gronkling]

solution to icho's r3 (probably backroute cos i save a glider and its not very elegant)
(also your latest replay to my r3 was fully intended)

ill try crane's tomorrow

[IchoTolot]

Your solution is a totally acceptable alternative.

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My worker lem went a slightly different route to the button and the gliders will be assigned later. So the extra glider is only there to ease precision on that route.

I also resolved Crane's level.

[grams88]

Here's a solution to Crane's rule 2 level.

[Crane]

That solution doesn't work on V2 of Glide Slope.

[Crane]

Got a collection of random solutions of my own: