Lemmings Forums Level Contest #14 - Playing Phase (Discussion Topic)

[Nessy]

I have finally started recording the Rule 1 contest levels (I have also attached my replays below). I solved all of them except "Arctic Oscillation" (and my level, of course ). Overall this was a great start to the contest

Rule 1 Part 1 (IchoTolot and Bulletride's level)
Rule 1 Part 2 (Crane, Raymanni, and more attempts on IchoTolot's level)

Arctic Oscillation

Couldn't solve this one, but I am confident that I am on the right track at least with the right side. Still an excellent level

Whiplash

Not sure if my solution is 100% intended, but very nice level! Great work

Cloning Vats

I think I might have backrouted this level slightly , but the solution I found was really good. My only comment is that it is not obvious that a lemming will splat when he falls off the ledge on the right into the water because it looks like the terrain he splats on is covered with water. Regardless, it was no big deal to me Great work

Little House On The Hill

Very nice level and puzzle! It was very much a think outside the box type as I had to figure out creative ways to use my destructive skills to crave the most efficient path through the house on the hill. Great work

[mobius]

I solved all the levels.... not really

excellent music selections for all of these levels!

I played some of the levels; I was able to solve 2 so far. I'll play the rest and solve more later.

BulletRide:

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Whiplash:
this graphic set was new to me; it's very nice, I really like it overall except I just wish it was a tad brighter. It's a bit too dark and hard to see for my taste.
A nice and very tricky small/three lemming level. I feel like I backrouted; after realizing the main problem is turning people around I resorted to an old trick and seemed maybe a tad too easy.

Medusa:
A Very nice complex level, the main puzzle being deciding how to get over each obstacle and where to use what. Getting close but haven't solved it yet.

Nessy:

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Guardians of the Hero's Shrine:
Cool layout and another interesting puzzle similar to Whiplash (oh right I guess that's not a surprise; I forgot for a moment that this was a contest with level making stipulations).
Again however I feel like I might have backrouted it; solution felt a little hackish, wasn't too hard. Although there was some interesting interaction; definitely a better solution then my first solution (which only solved on an earlier version)

Journey:
Very complex level at first glance.

Flopsy:

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Mystic Cave Lemmings:
cool aesthetics, looks very challenging at first. Looks very difficult to get aroudn the obstacles with so few builders, several possible routes.

Arty:

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you start with 9 builders so you basically have unlimited builders.
I didn't play this level because I just danced to the music.
Also a challenge of too few builders. Looks intimidating , but many possible paths to take.

IchoTolot:

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I demand a builder!:
Nice simple level that requires no-builder tricks, which I'm notoriously bad at.

[Ryemanni]

I see there's been a hefty amount of updates. I would appreciate a compiled pack before I start playing these levels.

[IchoTolot]

I see there's been a hefty amount of updates. I would appreciate a compiled pack before I start playing these levels.

I am constantly recompliling, the first post does not only list the most recent versions, it also tells which versions are currently in the nxp download-link. Both nxp and the first post get updated together. I'm a busy bee

[Ryemanni]

Alright! Time to get playing.

[Nessy]

I have continued onto Rule 2, but only managed to play the first three levels and only solve bulletride's level

Rule 2 Part 1 (IchoTolot and Arty's level)
Rule 2 Part 2 (bulletride and more attempts on IchoTolot and Arty's level)

I Demand A Builder

All your contest levels so far have me stumped, but I still refuse to demand a builder . Overall I think I figured out at least 50% of the solution. Need to stretch my mind a little bit more to figure out the rest of the solution. Great music by the way

The Possimpible

This one has me stumped, and I'm not even sure I'm on the right track to be honest. Seems like it is going to be a great "two lemming" puzzle from what I have experienced so far. Great music by the way

Medusa

Excellent level! I am confident I solved this one intentionally and it was a great puzzle

Flopsy and SQron's levels, you're up next!

[IchoTolot]

Ok, for now I will need to slow down because of other stuff, but here's at least Cranes R3 resolved.

[Crane]

Normally I'd be annoyed that you backrouted it again, but I can't help but be impressed at your knowledge of every trick in the book and your skill at finding every nook and cranny in the terrain!  Version 9 incoming!

[bulletride]

replays for Nessy and Flopsy.

Nessy

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Rule 2: Great level! I love how there are tons of almost possible solutions but you always end up one skill short. The solution is great as it seems so simple when you find yet still took me ages to figure it out

Rule 1: This one is a great level as well, same thing with your other level lots of possibilities for solutions. I am not sure if its a back route still though as it seems pretty similar to my old solution.

Flopsy

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Rule 3:Bombing positioning can be a little annoying (assuming this is intended) but besides that a good level. I would personally make the level a little bit wider so you can add little bit of space on the right side of the level (even if its just like fire there) as it feels a little cramped working on the right side. Not really a big deal though

Your rule 2 level is really tough what I wouldnt do for an extra walker lol.

Medusa solutions:

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Icho: your solution wasnt intended but it was similar to something I was fooling around with while making the level. It is technically challenging so I will leave it as a solution .

Nessy: Your solution is a little bit different than mine but not by much. Definitely an acceptable solution though nice job

Mobius: Thanks for the feedback on the styleset. It is my first one so before I officially release it I may make it a tad lighter... at least the entrances (I suck at making color pallets lol).

[IchoTolot]

Mobius: Thanks for the feedback on the styleset. It is my first one so before I officially release it I may make it a tad lighter... at least the entrances (I suck at making color pallets lol).

Don't forget about adding a color for the minimap display

[Flopsy]

bulletride

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the 2 bombers at the start is not intended but the solution as a whole is intended. You managed to effectively swap a bomber with a digger

I'm surprised to hear my Rule 2 level is super hard, keep at it, you might be overcomplicating it.

[Nessy]

Finished Rule 2, but only solved 1/2 levels I also solved "I Demand A Builder". Yay for me!

I have attached all replays below.

Rule 2 Part 3 (IchoTolot's level solved and Flopsy's level)
Rule 2 Part 4 (SQron's level and more attempts on Flopsy's level)

I Demand A Builder

A very interesting and great puzzle! Was fun to solve. Great work

Mystic Cave Lemmings

A great level, but I could't solve this one . I am most likely overcomplicating the solution.

Danger Ahead

Great level, and also great to see your Alien tileset in action!

@bulletride

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Your solution to my Rule 2 level is intended. Well done! Your solution to my Rule 1 level is still unintended, but a very cool solution nevertheless

[IchoTolot]

@ Nessy: Your solution to my R1 level is close to my own solution, great job. It has some smaller differences though, which is great    There are currently 3 known viable solutions now to it! Although josh's one is way more different.

[mobius]

I Have a lose 3 solution to I Demand a Builder. So I'm getting closer....?
I haven't looked at the updates yet.

[Crane]

I'm kind of surprised that "Die Doppelgänger" is proving to be so difficult, or at least not backrouted to oblivion by IchiTolot!  Either that or because it's a Rule 3 level, people are leaving it until last. Granted, as a designer, one may think their level is easy when it's really not and vice versa.