[NeoLemmix] Lemmings Stampede

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1 year in the making! 50 levels in 5 ranks. A big thanks to Nepster and IchoTolot for doing the majority of the testing.



Music Link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lghh6by5ljal68t/LemmingsStampedeMusic.rar?dl=1

(To get the music to work simply put all the tracks in the music subfolder where your NeoLemmix.exe is stored. If the folder doesn't exits yet, simply create a "music" subfolder where your NeoLemmix.exe is located.)

[mobius]

nice! These look very good. I look forward to trying it! And we've already gotten a little taste I see,

[Proxima]

Just played through Tame. These are fun levels so far, and I'm looking forward to continuing with the pack. I only have a couple of criticisms so far. For one thing, the exit on Level 10 is missing its flag

This is mostly a personal peeve, but in levels that use the classic 8 skills and only one or two are missing, it annoys me when the skill is removed, as then it takes a moment or two to look at all the skills and work out which are missing, whereas if you leave a gap then I know instantly. I know namida has been pushing for removing the skills, so maybe it's worth having a general discussion somewhere.

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Just played through Tame. These are fun levels so far, and I'm looking forward to continuing with the pack. I only have a couple of criticisms so far. For one thing, the exit on Level 10 is missing its flag

This is mostly a personal peeve, but in levels that use the classic 8 skills and only one or two are missing, it annoys me when the skill is removed, as then it takes a moment or two to look at all the skills and work out which are missing, whereas if you leave a gap then I know instantly. I know namida has been pushing for removing the skills, so maybe it's worth having a general discussion somewhere.

lol... I don't think I put flags on any of the snow levels . Oops! I will fix that in a sec. Glad you like the levels so far!

edit: re-uploaded it with the exits flags fixed.

[IchoTolot]

Seems like I have more levels to play and they are looking very good

Will get to them after I finished up some other things

EDIT: Replace the 0 at the end of your music download link with a 1 and it will be directly accessable

[namida]

This is mostly a personal peeve, but in levels that use the classic 8 skills and only one or two are missing, it annoys me when the skill is removed, as then it takes a moment or two to look at all the skills and work out which are missing, whereas if you leave a gap then I know instantly. I know namida has been pushing for removing the skills, so maybe it's worth having a general discussion somewhere.

NL does this automatically these days; it isn't something bulletride has done.

[IchoTolot]

Havoc finished

Replays attached.

Feedback, which contains major spoilers:

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I don't have to mention that most timers here are irrelevant and could be culled, but doing it anyway

Level 1: I think I backrouted that one.

Level 2: Decivingly hard, even though I relativly fast realised that only the upper path can be successful. Really enjoyed the music!

Level 3: Very good level   I spend some time on it until I realsed that I could indeed build over the bottom trap from the right   The music was not my taste here (sounded too much like tinkling).

Level 4: Excellent level that I remembered from möbius stream     Again great music track!

Level 5: The way redherrings are used here is excellent! I even tried going through the bottom and getting to the exit from the right!

Level 6: First I thought that this would be fiddly, but no clean and nice solution!

Level 7: Good level, even though the trap isn't the main part there in my opinion. Here the music even got on my nerves

Level 8: Well, I know that one

Level 9: Excellent level, which makes great use of the temporary basherstaircase (makes me getting ideas for own levels as well )! Left me baffled for some time!   I ran out of time on level 9. Is the timer there to enforce the 2nd miner builder combination?

Level 10: If this is intended it's awesome. Again many possibilities here, which can leave you guessing! That little builder step trick is a thing I might consider using as well Liked the music a lot.

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Havoc finished

Replays attached.

Feedback, which contains major spoilers:

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I don't have to mention that most timers here are irrelevant and could be culled, but doing it anyway

Level 1: I think I backrouted that one.

Level 2: Decivingly hard, even though I relativly fast realised that only the upper path can be successful. Really enjoyed the music!

Level 3: Very good level   I spend some time on it until I realsed that I could indeed build over the bottom trap from the right   The music was not my taste here (sounded too much like tinkling).

Level 4: Excellent level that I remembered from möbius stream     Again great music track!

Level 5: The way redherrings are used here is excellent! I even tried going through the bottom and getting to the exit from the right!

Level 6: First I thought that this would be fiddly, but no clean and nice solution!

Level 7: Good level, even though the trap isn't the main part there in my opinion. Here the music even got on my nerves

Level 8: Well, I know that one

Level 9: Excellent level, which makes great use of the temporary basherstaircase (makes me getting ideas for own levels as well )! Left me baffled for some time!   I ran out of time on level 9. Is the timer there to enforce the 2nd miner builder combination?

Level 10: If this is intended it's awesome. Again many possibilities here, which can leave you guessing! That little builder step trick is a thing I might consider using as well Liked the music a lot.

Fixed the music link. Thanks for the replays!

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Level 1 - I thought I fixed this already! nice catch will fix asap.
level 2 - You back routed this one too! Shouldn't be too hard to fix

The rest of the levels were completed correctly! (phew)

Level 9 - yes the time limit was to force the second build/miner. its usually only 30/20 seconds left on the timer so maybe i can make some part of the level slightly shorter to make it slightly less tight. I will probably remove the timers from the rest of the levels as they are not really needed.
level 7 - I just wanted to make a pun involving traps and wells :p
level 3 - I can change the music for this level, wanted to find a non copyright piano song for the pack but its hard to find a decent one.

[Proxima]

NL does this automatically these days; it isn't something bulletride has done.

Yikes, that's obnoxious Can you add an override for packs that use only the classic 8 skills?

Getting back on-topic, I've played through Crazy, solved all but two. Feedback:

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5: Unsolved. This is much too hard for Crazy, especially when the next level is nearly trivial.
7: Basher-digger staircase, one of my least favourite tricks due to the precision required. Still, it was a good puzzle working out how to save all three groups with only 3 builders.
8: Unsolved.
9: Replay attached in case it's a backroute, this was very simple.
10: Replay attached to show the route I took. Not happy about the fact that the worker lemming's second bridge goes over a thorn, making an unclimbable step and forcing me to redo the entire solution to bomb the thorn.

[bulletride]

NL does this automatically these days; it isn't something bulletride has done.

Yikes, that's obnoxious Can you add an override for packs that use only the classic 8 skills?

Getting back on-topic, I've played through Crazy, solved all but two. Feedback:

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5: Unsolved. This is much too hard for Crazy, especially when the next level is nearly trivial.
7: Basher-digger staircase, one of my least favourite tricks due to the precision required. Still, it was a good puzzle working out how to save all three groups with only 3 builders.
8: Unsolved.
9: Replay attached in case it's a backroute, this was very simple.
10: Replay attached to show the route I took. Not happy about the fact that the worker lemming's second bridge goes over a thorn, making an unclimbable step and forcing me to redo the entire solution to bomb the thorn.

Thanks for the feed back! I can fix these issues with Icho's back routes.

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Level 5 - I will move it up a ranking. It isn't that hard a level I thought but it seems to give people trouble.
Level 7 - shouldn't require too much precision. you can dig and bash away the entire block and then just simply build up. or you can make a wide pit with diggers and build up that way. You probably over-complicated it!
level 8 - This level is another one that I wasn't sure where to place, I may have to re order this one as well in the future.
Level 9 - This level I can probably drop to a lower point in the ranking. I was pretty generous with the skills on this one. (maybe remove a few builders)
Level 10 - I will remove the thorn. This level has like a million ways to beat it so I never even though it would get in the way lol.

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Re-uploaded the NXP on the main post. Fixed first 2 Havoc levels as well as some level re-ordering/minor fixes.

[IchoTolot]

Rsolved the 2 Havoc levels

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1 seems ~ intended, but 2 I think is an even bigger backroute now

Also could you reset the level id of Havoc 5 to a new one? (There is a button for that in the editor) The Mass Replay checker matches it with the Wild version and gives out that the replay has failed. I suspect you simply altered the level and saved it under a different name ---> keeping the same id.

I even should have pointed out earlier that I played the levels on the exp version

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Rsolved the 2 Havoc levels

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1 seems ~ intended, but 2 I think is an even bigger backroute now

Also could you reset the level id of Havoc 5 to a new one? (There is a button for that in the editor) The Mass Replay checker matches it with the Wild version and gives out that the replay has failed. I suspect you simply altered the level and saved it under a different name ---> keeping the same id.

I even should have pointed out earlier that I played the levels on the exp version

I reset the id on level 5. Level 1 was a backroute so I fixed that. re uploaded.

Level 2 ughhhhh. Going to be a pain to fix this without making it look hideous with steel. Ill deal with this one later

[IchoTolot]

Havoc 1 resolved.

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Maybe a backroute, if that miner cut at the bridge isn't intended.

Also Wicked solved

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1: This backroute is a big hackjob

2: Nice, little tricky level

3: Liked this one a lot

4: Don't know if this is intentional, but I find my solution awesome

5: Good level with that dig, bomb trick at the start

6: Great level + great msic    buuut the music's quality is the downside here! The cut off spikes that can be heared irritate a lot. Maybe find a version of the song in a better quality

7: Loved that one

8: I really find the music the bomb here (enough with the puns). Great level which requires a excellent sense for timing.

9: Not bad but also not my favorite.

10: We could be in backroute heaven again

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Havoc 1 resolved.

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Maybe a backroute, if that miner cut at the bridge isn't intended.

Also Wicked solved

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1: This backroute is a big hackjob

2: Nice, little tricky level

3: Liked this one a lot

4: Don't know if this is intentional, but I find my solution awesome

5: Good level with that dig, bomb trick at the start

6: Great level + great msic    buuut the music's quality is the downside here! The cut off spikes that can be heared irritate a lot. Maybe find a version of the song in a better quality

7: Loved that one

8: I really find the music the bomb here (enough with the puns). Great level which requires a excellent sense for timing.

9: Not bad but also not my favorite.

10: We could be in backroute heaven again

Lots of backroutes here!

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Havoc 1: Didnt think about builder turn around on the chain. removed!

Wicked 1: hack job indeed! fixed!
2: Not how I intended it but Ill let it slide since I can`t really prevent it lol.
4: Not intended but great solution! Ill leave it in.
5: Removed the bomber. Ill have to steal that solution for a future level :p
6: music changed!
8: Made the gap to build over bigger
9: removed a blocker
10: Made the pit bigger

I also fixed havoc 2. I don`t really like how I fixed it but I can`t think of a better way to block it atm.

Thanks for the replays!

Version 4 is posted.