Zendo, play by forum

Started by Simon, August 25, 2014, 01:33:33 AM

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Proxima


namida

My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Clam

#317
BBB
CCC
DDD
EEE
FFF
QQQQQ
CLAM
SPAM
LIX
WHITE
BLACK
TW
OL
ET
TE
RK
OA
NS

namida

HTBN:
DDD
CLAM
SPAM

LTBN:
BBB
CCC
EEE
FFF
QQQQQ
LIX
WHITE
BLACK
TW
OL
ET
TE
RK
OA
NS
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Simon

#319
RS
Y
QQQQQQ
QQQQQQQQ
KLZM
TTTT
SPAMGOD

-- Simon

namida

HTBN:
QQQQQQQQ

LTBN:
RS
Y
QQQQQQ
KLZM
TTTT
SPAMGOD
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Clam

GIT
SMH
GAM
ING
FIQQ
REQQ
HOTLIX
DOGENIGHT
BLACKPOOL
MIGHTYMIGHTY

namida

HTBN:
SMH
GAM
FIQQ
REQQ

LTBN:
GIT
ING
HOTLIX
DOGENIGHT
BLACKPOOL
MIGHTYMIGHTY
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Clam

RIFE
GYMHIT
AMEN
MEGA
QQQQFIRE
GNIGMA
LOOP
RMEGA
SERIF
THMIG

Simon

#324
TTTTT
BBBB
BBBBB
BBBBBB
Q{12} <-- exactly 12 letters Q
Q{16}

-- Simon

namida

HTBN:
RIFE
GYMHIT
AMEN
MEGA
QQQQFIRE
GNIGMA
Q{16}

LTBN:
LOOP
RMEGA
THMIG
TTTTT
BBBB
BBBBB
BBBBBB
Q{12}
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Clam

DDDD
DDDDD
DDDDDD
SSSSS
SSSSSS
GGG
HHH

(also, you missed SERIF ;))

namida

HTBN:
GGG
SSSSSS

LTBN:
SERIF
DDDD
DDDDD
DDDDDD
SSSSS
HHH
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Simon

The work has come to a halt again. I'd like additional hints. Let's see whether Proxima and Clam barge in and don't want hints. :-)

Complete list of koans are in my latest post before this one.

Current ideas: Anything < 3 letters is black. Some letters allow same-letter koans, others don't. The allowed length varies highly. The status is independent of anagramming.

I have shoved the koans through a number-crunching script, but didn't see any pattern. The script converts letters into numbers, sorts, and adds them.

-- Simon

namida

In response to your current ideas:

Spoiler
Anything < 3 letters is black
This is completely correct.

Some letters allow same-letter koans, others don't
Not true. All letters are possible to come up with a koan that contains them multiple times; in fact, there are only two letters for which a white koan cannot be made that consists of nothing but the same letter repeated multiple times.

The allowed length varies highly
Not true. As the example with A suggests, there is no maximum length of a valid koan. There is no length where a long string of As is the only valid koan of that length.

The status is independent of anagramming
This is not true in 100% of cases. To give a counterexample:
TMI and TIM are black koans
MIT and MTI are white koans
However, it is true in the majority of cases.

If you'd like a major hint:
Spoiler
Something that has been suggested before is at least on the right track. However, it may help to re-imagine that solution as if you were a computer rather than a human. This alone will not solve the puzzle, but will get you much closer.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)