Mike! I want to ask you...

[guest]

Yes, I recieved the windows version (PC CD) of lemmings in a 3-game box set called "Lets go crazy with lemmings". It included the aforementioned lemmings, lemmings Paintball, and Lemmings 3D.

Well if it has Lemmings 3D and Paintball, my guess would be that your Windows version must be one of the later releases.  perhaps the earlier Windows version(s) did have the bad safe-fall distance but they quietly fixed it since.

[Isu]

So, I guess that the "floppy disk" version is the good one, right?

Yes, it most likely is, but the CD version I got doesn't seem to have any major flaws either.

perhaps the earlier Windows version(s) did have the bad safe-fall distance but they quietly fixed it since.

Do you think so? I guess it's possible...

[geoo]

I have a question about the differences between WinLem and 'original' lemmings too:
In WinLem, an exploding lemming works like a blocker, i.e. he turns other lemmings around.
I found that out playing 'Five Alive' and thought it has to be in that way.
Now, playing original lemmings with dosbox, I see that an exploding lemming doesn't turn other lemmings around.
What is right, what was it supposed to be?

[Isu]

I think that due to the fact you are given 2 builders on the "Many lemmings make level work" level, The right process is for the bomber to turn the lemming.

[geoo]

Well, might be true. Is there a difference between original and ONML in that fact?
I haven't tried that out in ONML with dosbox 'cause I don't get it work.

However, I solved that level letting the bomber fall a tiny because I didn't see that I could turn the one around at the second time with building.

\edit: I looked up the solution of 'Five Alive' from the wanadoo solutions page and it seems that in that way the second lemming isn't turned around. ::

[guest]

I have a question about the differences between WinLem and 'original' lemmings too:
In WinLem, an exploding lemming works like a blocker, i.e. he turns other lemmings around.
I found that out playing 'Five Alive' and thought it has to be in that way.
Now, playing original lemmings with dosbox, I see that an exploding lemming doesn't turn other lemmings around.

Mike's really the only one qualify to answer, but I'd guess that unless you explicitly made him a blocker also, a bomber shouldn't be blocking anyone during any phase of its existence.

[Proxima]

Indeed.

You don't need the bomber to turn lemmings to solve "Many lemmings make level work". Make the second lemming a builder as a delay; the first lemming will then explode before the next lemming reaches him.

[DragonsLover]

In fact, bombers are not supposed to make other lemmings to turn around. I guess in WinLemm, they did that because of the blockers. I guess that exploding blockers make lemmings to turn around and when it's a walker that gonna explode, it takes the same "event" or the same "sequence" of the blocker, it reacts like if it was one, but it shouldn't. What do you think about this?

[Proxima]

On many versions (including Cheapo) it's the other way round -- exploding blockers don't turn other lemmings in the half-second before they explode.

(I exploited this to backroute Insane Steve's "Survival Curve". Sorry Steve!)

[guest]

On many versions (including Cheapo)

I was only aware of Cheapo in this regard.  What versions of Lemmings also do this?

[guest]

I was only aware of Cheapo in this regard. &#A0;What versions of Lemmings also do this?

And indeed, I tested the PC version (both original and ONML), the SNES version, the Genesis/Megadrive version, and even the Amiga version (both original and ONML).

NONE exhibit the behavior found in Cheapo.

So rather than "many" versions, looks like it's just Cheapo and maybe the Mac version.  And maybe other lemmings clones but who cares?  

[Proxima]

Odd.... I was sure I remembered seeing that behaviour on the Genesis version. I'll check that and the Mac version as soon as I get a chance.

[tumble_weed]

I feel sorry for Mike...being "bombarded" by questions

[guest]

Hmm, maybe that's why he hasn't been reading any of this lately......  

[Timballisto]

You know, I haven't really seen him around anyway.