Mafia: Lemmings 2 Edition

Started by Clam, April 20, 2014, 08:28:18 AM

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ccexplore

(Managed to squeeze some time in for a quick word...)

Mobius, I don't think you quite grasped what happened.  As soon as Simon casted the 4th vote for Rubix the voting is done by Clam's rules.  Rubix is going to be lynched regardless of what you (or anyone else) say or do now.  This is why I panicked and cursed myself when I finally saw what happened after being mostly absent for hours.

Also as I had some time now to more thoroughly think over how things might play out from this point, what I did is actually probably rash and will not actually result in me getting killed during the night (and conveniently let me put more focus into unplanned real-lifework stuff I need to get done as I had in mind), and instead will potentially result in me surviving and the other rogue or maybe Simon claiming to be the "real" miner for day 3.  Oh well.  I guess you'll have to decide then whether I just played badly as a miner or crazily as a rogue. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/XD.gif" alt=":XD:" title="XD" class="smiley" />

[add: in case people are confused: my 1st response after Simon's 4th vote is an attempt to plan to forge on but stay under the radar. My 2nd response was changing my mind due to possibility (now in hindsight probably over-worried) of more work-induced absentee hours during day 3 which may lead to the same sort of vote-over situation that just happened with Rubix, potentially even before I had the time to provide my input, leading me to decide to better just get out of the game and reveal now.]

Clam

Votes cast on Day 2:
RubiX: 5 votes (geoo, möbius, Ramon, Simon, ccexplore)
möbius: 1 vote (RubiX)

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The village has spoken, and RubiX shall be thrown to the clam, never to be heard from again!

At dusk, you gather around the fire and do the deed. You sit and watch, then resolve to look away next time... http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/scared.gif" alt=":scared:" title="Scared" class="smiley" />

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jokcwzsab4zucpz/rubix_munched.png?dl=1" alt="" class="bbc_img" />
(Just look at that glee!)

When he's done eating, to everyone's surprise, the clam speaks in a booming voice that echoes through the village:

"RubiX was a Rogue."

More than a little spooked, but satisfied with your day's work (or quietly quaking in your magno-boots!), you rise to your feet as the boombox starts up, and dance long into the night.

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Residents of Clamifornia Beach as of Day 2:
Simon
RubiX (rogue) Munched Day 2
NaOH Killed Night 1
Giga
geoo
möbius
Ramon
ccexplore

By the way, this list is in order of sign-up for the game. Since somebody asked.

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Day 3 dawns in 48 hours. Due to RL stuff this won't be brought forward.
The remaining Rogue may now choose a player to kill.
The scooper [if still alive] may now choose a player to spy on.


Sorry about the delay, I got waylaid at the crucial moment! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/embarrassed.gif" alt=":-[" title="Embarrassed" class="smiley" /> I'll stick to this later time though, if anything it's nicer for me.

mobius

turned out I had work today after all. No comments yet?  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/shocked.gif" alt=":o" title="Shocked" class="smiley" />

ok, I must admit I'm a little baffled and have a few points/questions:

-thanks for the clarification ccx, I did not exactly realize that.

-first of all; yay, victory for innocent team!  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

-If ccx is telling the truth, that means that Simon purposely voted for Rubix, either in mistake, not realizing the rules exactly as I did, and he planned to retract. Or he made an extremely risky move which backfired since ccx spilled the beams....

-ccx's lying/ he is rouge OR he is trying to protect the real miner [who could've been NaOH].

yeah I don't really know.  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/huh.gif" alt="???" title="Huh?" class="smiley" />

oh and belated poor NaOH  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" class="smiley" />
everything by me: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5982.msg96035#msg96035

"Not knowing how near the truth is, we seek it far away."
-Hakuin Ekaku

"I have seen a heap of trouble in my life, and most of it has never come to pass" - Mark Twain


GigaLem

Day 3
2 out of 8 are Dead
We could only ensue and hope to stay alive
it is my job to rid evil and that's if I can do it
who knows what day 3 has in store for us  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" class="smiley" />

ccexplore

Yo, it's still night 2 and some of us are trying to get some sleep here, quit your yappings already! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/winktounge.gif" alt=";P" title="Wink-Tongue" class="smiley" />

Clam

You're not sure who brought balloons to the munching party, but it turns out they had malicious intent! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/devil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil" class="smiley" />

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddp6a9pj0j89mhv/night2-kill.png?dl=1" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

While the lone rogue may be quaking in his magno-boots, they kept him safely on the ground as he handed on the balloon to geoo! The crafty rogue took away the fan too, so geoo couldn't Go Back to Fanning and was doomed to float forever upward http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" class="smiley" />

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Residents of Clamifornia Beach as of Day 3:
Simon
RubiX (rogue) Munched Day 2
NaOH Killed Night 1
Giga
geoo Killed Night 2
möbius
Ramon
ccexplore

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You may now discuss and vote. 3 votes are needed for munching. Day 3 ends in 72 hours, or when a munching is decided (again, I'll close it at this time of day).

Ramon

Town is still allowed 1 mistake, so it's kind of a win-win situation. Simon shall be munched for obvious reasons!

(Assuming ccx is telling the truth. If he's lying he must be the last rogue and he can be munched the following day.)

Simon

If the game teaches anything, then it's how people react to the simplest stimulus whenever they have fear.

Put the facts together and see that the ccexplore lynching wins one day earlier, due to his:
* ample delay during the main disussion phase to avoid attention,
* an extra vote against Rubix,
* getting people to not talk during night,
* and maybe even the obvious kill of geoo as a frame against me.

-- Simon

ccexplore

Really, we are still doing this?  But Ramon is correct.  With 1 rogue and 4 innocents, basically you can choose to lynch me or Simon in either order and it will still be a win for the innocents.

Anyhow, my vote is of course on Simon.  One more vote against Simon will make it final.

In the event that this actually leans towards resolving to a 2-2 with a lone holdout (or some variant thereof), I am also willing to switch my vote to myself (ie. suicide) just to prove beyond doubt I'm truthful. Just promise me in that case no one will be confused anymore on day 4 and put Simon to rest. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/winktounge.gif" alt=";P" title="Wink-Tongue" class="smiley" />

ccexplore

Actually, this reminds me: Clam,  in the event of a scooper lynching, do you reveal that the person is scooper or merely that he is innocent?

GigaLem

Tensions are high, im worried  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/scared.gif" alt=":scared:" title="Scared" class="smiley" />

mobius

I'm not gonna be able to change it anyway, so Simon.

this game sure took a few unexpected turns. ...I hope it doesn't take another  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/scared.gif" alt=":scared:" title="Scared" class="smiley" />

btw that's a good question, ccx
everything by me: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5982.msg96035#msg96035

"Not knowing how near the truth is, we seek it far away."
-Hakuin Ekaku

"I have seen a heap of trouble in my life, and most of it has never come to pass" - Mark Twain


Simon

gg wp

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?action=profile;u=4">Quote from: Clam on 2014-04-24 02:51:46
Hi Simon,
Your role for the Mafia game is:
Rogue Lemming.

Yeah, it's impossible to salvage the game after cc's outing.

-- Simon

ccexplore

Yeah to be fair, Simon played the rogue role extremely well and under other circumstances would likely have won.  Things were stacked against them in numerous ways the moment I lucked out scooping him on day 0 actually.

I'll say more about my choices later tonight, right now I want to catch up on some RL stuff.  For the fateful day-0 scoop when no in-game information are available to inform my choices, I was basically choosing amongst the set of people who I thought are most likely to make the craftiest moves regardless of their roles, so as to minimize chances of me getting misled.   So based on past discussions and the first game, it was down to a choice of Simon vs geoo.  (I probably need to add NaOH to the list for future games.)

Clam

Day 3 votes:
Simon: 3 (Ramon, ccexplore, möbius)
ccexplore: 1 (Simon)

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The bums swiftly decide that Simon is today's clam fodder!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1r9f26feuq3x5st/simon_munched.png?dl=1" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

The clam nonchalantly gulps down the porcupine quills, and speaks up again:

"Simon was a Rogue."

And then, his work done for the summer, he closes his googly eyes and goes to sleep.

The evil rogue beach-bums have been thwarted, and Clamifornia Beach is saved for another summer! Cue wild sunset party!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2bbyeggih5wys7/mafia2-end.png?dl=1" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

...well, as wild as you can get with just four lemmings http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

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Residents of Clamifornia Beach - final
Simon (Rogue) – Scooped Night 0, Munched Day 3
RubiX (Rogue) – Munched Day 2
NaOH (Innocent) – Scooped Night 1, Killed Night 1
Giga (Innocent)
geoo (Innocent) – Killed Night 2
möbius (Innocent)
Ramon (Innocent)
ccexplore (Scooper)


Thanks for playing, and hope you enjoyed the game!

The floor is now open for comments and prep for the next game. I'll add my own thoughts when I get a moment (note of course that it's currently PUZZLETIME!).