Any way to fix the safe-fall distance from the CD version?

[weirdzod]

Is possible to hack the exe file for fix this problem?

The ONML from this CD have the same problem?

[GuyPerfect]

I'm not aware of what the problem is. Could you describe what it's doing wrong?

[DragonsLover]

Hello!

I know what you're talking about and it has been fixed by ccexplore a while ago.
I still have a version of Lemmings where it fixes the problem of the safe-fall distance from the CD version along with the bug of the first music playing each time you lose a level from the floppy version. I don't know however if that version would play the CD soundtracks though.

I'm not aware of what the problem is. Could you describe what it's doing wrong?

In the CD version of Lemmings, the safe-fall distance has been increased from 60+3 to 63+3, causing the Lemmings to survive on higher fall distance and making some levels way easier than intended. A good example would be all the "We All Fall Down" levels which can be solved without even assigning a single Digger skill.

[ccexplore]

Let's start by attaching the EXEs of your copy of the game here (or otherwise get me a copy of your files in some manner).  There are a number of "CD versions" of the game for DOS, and there is also WinLemm which I vaguely recall (possibly incorrectly) may have the same problem.

[namida]

WinLemm does indeed have the problem, at least on some copies.

[weirdzod]

Thanks for the help http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

In the zip file are the exes.

[ccexplore]

I'll try to get to it sometime this weekend.  To help motivate me, I would love it if you can answer some questions (not directly related to completing your request) I have about your version of the games: http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/winktounge.gif" alt=";P" title="Wink-Tongue" class="smiley" />

Have you gotten your version of the games to play music?  I tried the EXEs (both) and it looks like they have the behavior of trying to play audio tracks from the game's CD.  Some CD-ROM versions of the games do actually have such audio tracks on the CD, while others omit them from the CD apparently (and I guess you're then left with no sound or something).

If you have gotten your CD's ONML to play music that's from the game's CD, I'm curious to know if they are merely repeats of a subset of the same songs also played in the version of Lemmings on your CD, or whether they are totally new songs separate from the Lemmings set (as they are supposed to be).

[note: I'm obviously assuming that there is just a single CD disc holding both Lemmings and ONML.  If that's not the case (ie. separate CDs for each game) then please let me know!]

Someone here made a MP3/WAV rip of the CD audio tracks I'm talking about, see http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=644" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">this topic.  Feel free to have a listen and see if the ripped music sounds like the ones you hear (if you get any music) when you play the game with your CD.  My questions about ONML is because that rip of CD audio tracks distinctly do not have seem to include any of the ONML music that one gets from non-CD versions of ONML.

[weirdzod]

Hi!  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

This version has the same audio tracks that are in the forum, there are no tracks of ONML: (
At each level when the track reaches the end repeats.

Unfortunately I have only the CD, I haven't the box or the manual, so I can not give much more information about this release.

Excuse my English.

[ccexplore]

Thanks for confirming, too bad there are no CD versions of ONML music.

Anyway, I believe I've fixed it and have attached the modified EXEs.  Only vgalemmi.exe from each game needs to be modified.  I didn't have a chance to actually try them out yet though.

[weirdzod]

Thank you very much, for now it works great http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

On the subject of music in cd ONML ... you can create a cd image by replacing some of the tracks.

I can convert a midi, improving their quality using synthesizers, but only find 3 midis of ONML (DOSOhnomore1.mid, DOSOhnomore2.mid and DOSOhnomore4.mid)

Here I have a sample of how it can be, but I would have to equalize a little better.

If anyone has the other 3 midis please to put them in this thread and I will try to make them sound better http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvgho47oqqeqdrz/DOSOhnomore1.mp3" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvgho47oqqeqdrz/DOSOhnomore1.mp3 http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" class="smiley" />

[weirdzod]

This is better: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2va6dapmz4ukae/DOSOhnomore1b.mp3" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2va6dapmz4ukae/DOSOhnomore1b.mp3

[DragonsLover]

Just to mention, I'm the author of the midi files and they're far from being good as they try to simulate the Dos music. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

I can make better midi files if you want to improve them using synths. This could give me some motivation. But just wondering, what kind of synthesizers are you using?

[weirdzod]

Just to mention, I'm the author of the midi files and they're far from being good as they try to simulate the Dos music. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

I can make better midi files if you want to improve them using synths. This could give me some motivation. But just wondering, what kind of synthesizers are you using?

Hi http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />
I'm using Nexus 2 with some expansions, superior drummer with the electronic expansion and some other.

Here another example: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tikhsnl9jgfclwd/onhoml2.mp3" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/tikhsnl9jgfclwd/onhoml2.mp3

I found this midi pack, are these your midis? https://www.dropbox.com/s/f96qlswyyw1ex11/Midis.rar" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/f96qlswyyw1ex11/Midis.rar

PS: If you don't like the instruments or anything else of use in the examples that I'm putting it here, you can tell me. For example, the lead of the first file is a bit hardcore, I can change it, or guitar, or whatever. You can suggest whatever you want http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

[DragonsLover]

In my case, I'm using VSTHost along with the YAMAHA SoftSynthesizer S-YXG50 and I use Anvil Studio to sequence.

The first midi of the pack is from me, I recognize it. The other ones are not. Where did you find it?

I just improved the 3 midi files I have. I didn't sequence the 3 other ones yet, but someone seems to have been faster than me. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

As for the instruments, I'm playing with these on my own. However, I have no idea how it would sound for you. So, my suggestion would be that I send you the files when I feel they are ready, and if they sound awkward for you, you can alter some instruments in order to make it sound better.

[DragonsLover]

There you go. All done. Tell me what do you think.

Since it's midi, it's possible that some instruments may sound awkward, depending on the sound card you have, especially about the percussion organ on some songs. Therefore, weirdzod, please check if it sounds okay, not too loud and bring the changes if it's not.