Seeking classics I missed!

[Prob Lem]

I've been annoyed lately at how there's an ever-increasing dearth of games to my interest these days (only two or three companies, at the most, produce anything that I want to play, anymore), so I've been looking to older games that I missed the first time around. Mostly I'm focussed on the SNES, Mega Drive, Amiga, and Atari ST right now, but any suggestions up to the PSX are fine, really, if you have any to share. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

Very specifically, I'm seeking suggestions for well-known titles that I've missed, after I noticed that my collection contains obscurities like Lomax, The Adventure of Little Ralph, and Intrepid, but that it's missing the likes of Parasol Stars, Krusty's Super Fun House, and Frogger!

For what it's worth, I tend towards platformers and anything with a Lemmings'y twist, but I'm not averse to other genres, too, as long as they're not RPGs (I hate RPGs)!

I'm happy to share suggestions with others in the same boat, too, of course. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

[Pooty]

Have you played Rod Land? I didn't get to play many Amiga games before the disk drive decided to die horribly, but that game was probably my favourite outside of Lemmings. It's a single-screen platform game where you can summon ladders and smack enemies silly with your magic wand. You can also collect all the flowers in each level for a chance of an extra life. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

[Prob Lem]

Funnily enough, Rod Land is one of the ones on my must-buy list! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" /> A grand suggestion, and dead-on, I must say.

[Adam]

I'd highly recommend playing Wonderboy in Monsterland for the Sega Master System. It has a very slight RPG element - you buy upgrades for your armour, and special weapons as you go along, but it's mainly an action platformer. The RPG element just changes the way the game can be played in certain areas.

[geoo]

Looks like we share a taste in Games then, I hate RPGs too. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

If you're not averse to DOS (or have already played all of them, perhaps that's why you didn't ask for DOS http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />), I'd recommend Pushover and StoneAge, both excellently designed puzzle games.
Of course for platformers, Prince of Persia and Commander Keen, in particular 5, which you probably know already though.
On the Genesis, there's a platformer called Kid Chameleon which, as far as I know, was Sega's answer to Super Mario (and it shows http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />), it's pretty challenging the first time around, but I find it very enjoyable.
That's all I can think of right now, and then I haven't played that many games.

[Prob Lem]

I'd highly recommend playing Wonderboy in Monsterland for the Sega Master System. It has a very slight RPG element - you buy upgrades for your armour, and special weapons as you go along, but it's mainly an action platformer. The RPG element just changes the way the game can be played in certain areas.

I loved Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap when I was a youngster, and I've often wondered about this, so I'm going to ask ( http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" /> ): Is Wonder Boy in Monsterland worth it after that, or will it seem too dated or possibly clunky in comparison?

Looks like we share a taste in Games then, I hate RPGs too. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

Hah, it's always nice to know that I'm not alone in that! Seems to be a somewhat rare thing, at times, though I'm sure it probably isn't, and that that's a result of the media skewing things in some way or another.

If you're not averse to DOS (or have already played all of them, perhaps that's why you didn't ask for DOS http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />), I'd recommend Pushover and StoneAge, both excellently designed puzzle games.

I'm not averse to MS-DOS, though I didn't mention it for a reason. I probably should have mentioned that in the first place!

I go through phases with what sorts of games I'm in the right frame of mind to play. Right now, my focus is stuff that was well-known in the UK and Europe in the early to mid-1990s, that I somehow didn't find interesting at the time even though it actually was to my tastes. When I was a kid, unappealing character design could put me off of a game entirely, for example; It does mean that there's now a goldmine of games to my tastes in these times of games-to-my-taste drought, at least! I could probably have expanded my list of systems a bit, to that end, since the Master System (which an alarming amount of people are forgetting was Europe's dominant-by-far 8-bit console) was still going strong, too.

It was the case that x86 hardware running MS-DOS and/or Microsoft Windows wasn't really much of a player in the games market here at all until around 1996, for most people (x86 hardware's place largely seemed to be in workplaces, and most home users had Amigas and Atari STs). The very first MS-DOS game I ever encountered myself was Lemmings 3D, funnily enough. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" /> I've recently gone through a phase of picking up MS-DOS stuff that wasn't really a big thing here, so I'm on to different pastures for the time being. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

Of course for platformers, Prince of Persia and Commander Keen, in particular 5, which you probably know already though.

I have most of the Commander Keen games by virtue of them still being sold, luckily enough. Keen 5 is at about the limit of the hardware I usually emulate classic games on, though.

I have never played Prince of Persia. I know that I need to rectify this, so thanks much for suggesting it. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

On the Genesis, there's a platformer called Kid Chameleon which, as far as I know, was Sega's answer to Super Mario (and it shows http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />), it's pretty challenging the first time around, but I find it very enjoyable.
That's all I can think of right now, and then I haven't played that many games.

I have Kid Chameleon! Brilliant title, that. For some reason, these days it puts me in mind of a game version of the cartoon series, Ben 10. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" /> I can only imagine that, had that been a 1990s TV series, that's the kind of game that would have been made of it.

Thanks guys, the suggestions are much appreciated. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

[Adam]

I'd highly recommend playing Wonderboy in Monsterland for the Sega Master System. It has a very slight RPG element - you buy upgrades for your armour, and special weapons as you go along, but it's mainly an action platformer. The RPG element just changes the way the game can be played in certain areas.

I loved Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap when I was a youngster, and I've often wondered about this, so I'm going to ask ( http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" /> ): Is Wonder Boy in Monsterland worth it after that, or will it seem too dated or possibly clunky in comparison??

I think Monsterland feels pretty smooth. I'd definitely recommend playing the Master System version - it's the most polished port.

I did a longplay of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Ch0HQfpjs" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">here if you want to take a look and see how smoothly it plays. It's got a couple of subplots which keep the game interesting... there's a bit of a glitch which happens in Round 4 occasionally, where you get send into some sort of glitchy world, but that always rectifies itself.. just pissing annoying when you're going for a perfect run and lose a heart due to the eggtimer running out.

[Prob Lem]

This might just be for me*. Thanks for the link - I had no idea that SMSLemmings on YouTube was associated with the Lemmings Forums. I've watched a load of your videos before now, funnily enough. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

What happens with the glitch in Round 4, out of curiousity?

*And a quick look on eBay shows it to be very affordable, too, which is another reason for my choice to seek out older games at the moment. They're generally even cheaper than the somewhat-similarly-priced schlock that seems to choke a lot of platforms, now. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

[Adam]

Hehe!

I set up that YouTube account about a year before hosting the forum. Glad you enjoy watching the videos on there! Once I've got my PVR set up again, I plan to record some better quality SMS videos.

Just before the door to the boss battle on Round 4, there's a jump you can do to get hidden coins on top of the building where the boss door is. Sometimes - if you land in the wrong spot - you'll find yourself unable to scroll backwards, and you can't interact with any doors. So, you have to keep going left, falling through the floor, landing on top of glitchy buildings and falling through other buildings until you eventually get back to the boss door.

I keep meaning to play through it again - it's a game which requires a console to fully appreciate, though, and that means going up in the loft of my grandparents' house.

Another game to bear in mind is Psycho Fox - it's a nice take on a platform game. :-)

[Prob Lem]

Hehe!

I set up that YouTube account about a year before hosting the forum. Glad you enjoy watching the videos on there! Once I've got my PVR set up again, I plan to record some better quality SMS videos.

It was very handy in helping to pick out a good level to take a screenshot from for a background for photographing http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=694.msg15822#msg15822" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">my most recent plush lemming, too, actually, so thanks for that. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

Just before the door to the boss battle on Round 4, there's a jump you can do to get hidden coins on top of the building where the boss door is. Sometimes - if you land in the wrong spot - you'll find yourself unable to scroll backwards, and you can't interact with any doors. So, you have to keep going left, falling through the floor, landing on top of glitchy buildings and falling through other buildings until you eventually get back to the boss door.

How unusual. I wonder if it's present in the arcade game, too, or if it's unique to the Master System version?

Another game to bear in mind is Psycho Fox - it's a nice take on a platform game. :-)

I have Psycho Fox, and its spiritual-sequel, Decap Attack, too (I don't have the Japanese version of the latter, Magical Hat Flying Turbo Adventure, though I gather that the level designs are different). Haven't had the time to put into actually finishing them yet, though. Must get around to that!

Also, I just realised that I completely forgot to comment on geoo's suggestions of Pushover and Stone Age! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/shocked.gif" alt=":o" title="Shocked" class="smiley" /> Oops! Sorry about that!

Those two have Amiga versions, too, and whilst I've not heard of Stone Age before (I assume http://www.lemonamiga.com/?game_id=2576" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">this is the same title?), I know that Pushover (which in its original incarnation, at least, was sponsored by the weird British cheese-flavoured potato snack, Quavers) is well-regarded. More to add to the list! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

[Adam]

Hehe!

I set up that YouTube account about a year before hosting the forum. Glad you enjoy watching the videos on there! Once I've got my PVR set up again, I plan to record some better quality SMS videos.

It was very handy in helping to pick out a good level to take a screenshot from for a background for photographing http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=694.msg15822#msg15822" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">my most recent plush lemming, too, actually, so thanks for that. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

You're very welcome - those plushes are SO cute! You've got a real talent there!

Just before the door to the boss battle on Round 4, there's a jump you can do to get hidden coins on top of the building where the boss door is. Sometimes - if you land in the wrong spot - you'll find yourself unable to scroll backwards, and you can't interact with any doors. So, you have to keep going left, falling through the floor, landing on top of glitchy buildings and falling through other buildings until you eventually get back to the boss door.

How unusual. I wonder if it's present in the arcade game, too, or if it's unique to the Master System version?

As far as I'm aware, it's unique to the Master System version - the Master System version was built from scratch, as far as I'm aware! :-)

Another game to bear in mind is Psycho Fox - it's a nice take on a platform game. :-)

I have Psycho Fox, and its spiritual-sequel, Decap Attack, too (I don't have the Japanese version of the latter, Magical Hat Flying Turbo Adventure, though I gather that the level designs are different). Haven't had the time to put into actually finishing them yet, though. Must get around to that!

I always preferred Psycho Fox over Decap Attack, but there's something fun about screaming "DECAPITATION" at the top of your voice every time you kill an enemy in Decap Attack!

[geoo]

Those two have Amiga versions, too, and whilst I've not heard of Stone Age before (I assume http://www.lemonamiga.com/?game_id=2576" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">this is the same title?), I know that Pushover (which in its original incarnation, at least, was sponsored by the weird British cheese-flavoured potato snack, Quavers) is well-regarded. More to add to the list! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

Yep, that's the one. It's a very pure puzzle game, so no kind of precision or anything needed. There's an easy mode and a hard mode, the only difference is that the time limit is a lot more lenient in easy mode. So unless you like to solve puzzles under time pressure, easy mode is the way to go. I think they should have done away with the time limits and the life system (each time you run out of time you lose a life, and once you lose 5 you have to enter a level code to get back to where you were). I noticed I have a folder with the tracker music of StoneAge, and it's a completely different soundtrack from the DOS version. I think I prefer the DOS music, but then I'm fond of Adlib. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />
Pushover was also released for SNES, I only thing I know about that version is that level 91 works differently (or is different, I don't recall).

[Prob Lem]

You're very welcome - those plushes are SO cute! You've got a real talent there!

Ee, thanks very much! http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/embarrassed.gif" alt=":-[" title="Embarrassed" class="smiley" />

Yep, that's the one. It's a very pure puzzle game, so no kind of precision or anything needed. There's an easy mode and a hard mode, the only difference is that the time limit is a lot more lenient in easy mode. So unless you like to solve puzzles under time pressure, easy mode is the way to go. I think they should have done away with the time limits and the life system (each time you run out of time you lose a life, and once you lose 5 you have to enter a level code to get back to where you were).

Pushover was also released for SNES, I only thing I know about that version is that level 91 works differently (or is different, I don't recall).

I'm going to hit YouTube later and check out the different versions of both of these games, methinks... All I (vaguely) know about the SNES version is that it lacks the Quavers sponsorship, and even then I'm not 100% sure that that's the case!

I noticed I have a folder with the tracker music of StoneAge, and it's a completely different soundtrack from the DOS version. I think I prefer the DOS music, but then I'm fond of Adlib. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

I lean towards Amiga music myself, but again, I'm going to head to YouTube and see which I prefer before I try to track anything down. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

[Leo]

Benefactor (Amiga, CD32)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlo6l8NzR0" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlo6l8NzR0

Fury of the furries (Amiga, CD32, PC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vD80v5PZ-A" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vD80v5PZ-A

Pac in time (PC, Mac, SNES) variant of 'Fury of the furries' but check SNES version
PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCXxPcFimTU" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCXxPcFimTU
SNES (different one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSvCiL9oJJg" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSvCiL9oJJg

Putty (Amiga)
or
Silly Putty (SNES)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFeZeKhnJhM" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFeZeKhnJhM

Putty squad (SNES)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3LBjR0VL4" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3LBjR0VL4

One step beyond (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MlVHitcSE" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MlVHitcSE

Ugh (Amiga, PC, C64)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzM1qHJ04k0" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzM1qHJ04k0

Lost in mine (Amiga)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ovfC0Rl2U" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ovfC0Rl2U

Troddlers (Amiga, SNES, PC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc13_0voSEU" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc13_0voSEU

Cool croc twins (Amiga, Atari ST, PC, C64)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ebCUo-ytw" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ebCUo-ytw

Gulp (Amiga, CD32)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33POMcQBBaY" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33POMcQBBaY

[Prob Lem]

Thanks Leo - some great ones there.

Funnily enough, I already have the SNES versions of both Putty and Putty Squad, and Troddlers has been on my "shopping list" for a little while. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" />

Also, I had no idea that Pac in Time had any relation to Fury of the Furries... http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/shocked.gif" alt=":o" title="Shocked" class="smiley" />