Maximum Lemmings Saved Records

Started by LemSteven, June 26, 2011, 07:19:28 AM

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Quote from: Proxima on April 22, 2020, 12:11:59 AMAs far as I know, all glitches relevant to maximum saved are the same between DOS and Amiga, so most results should be the same as regards number lost. (Some levels have a higher number of lemmings, e.g. Taxing 7 will be 99/100 instead of 79/80.)

The SNES version is much closer to Amiga compared to DOS, so you could use MASTER 88's SNES high-score results and videos as a reference--the SNES scoring system favors percent saved much more than skills saved, so the results are effectively optimized for maximum saved.  I believe only Mayhem 26 and 29 will differ from the DOS results (lose 5 and lose 3 respectively, ie. 1 more each compared to DOS).

Of course, I'm not sure you actually want to do some of them. :devil: The thread clearly showed how exhausting it can be to do, for example 100% for Mayhem 2 using the sliding glitch on the actual console without aid of savestates and such.

LemSteven

Lemmings Revolution Level 9-2 (Can't Get There from Here) 100% is now confirmed (the previous record was 49/50).

Sadly, I can't take the credit for this one.  I found the solution on the Lemmings Fandom wiki.  It exploits a glitch that I was previously unaware of:

The Glitch
You can make a lemming pass through a thin steel wall by attempting to bash through it multiple times in rapid succession.

Proxima

Sadly, our overall number of lemmings saved has just gone down.

In July 2022, I asked Gronkling and ApG77 whether they could confirm tseug's claim of 100% on Genesis Tricky 12. Both looked into it and believed it to be impossible. Today I also asked Paiy, with the same result.

Since I have never seen proof of tseug's result and the leading Genesis experts believe it to be impossible, I have now removed it from the official results.

saba

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Sfc True All Levels TAS (currently inactive)

saba

snes s1 can be done with 50% saved, only works in the japanese version
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Sfc True All Levels TAS (currently inactive)

whoever

Quote from: LemSteven on December 15, 2011, 11:59:41 PMEDIT 2: I also improved 11-10 (Lemming be thy name...) to 57/60.  This one takes advantage of the fact that "oh-noers" can survive splat falls, as well as stacking blockers to make the falls survivable for the others.

Are there any further details about this claimed solution available? I ask because Pirohiko solved this level in 2008 using exactly the same method as described by LemSteven above and was only able to save 5 of the worker lemmings (a total of 55 out of 60). Pirohiko's solution can still be viewed on YouTube:

 

whoever

In the meantime, I've managed to optimize the Pirohiko strategy a bit. I replaced a bomber with a staircase. This way, I can now save 56 out of 60 lemmings. The bridge must be placed precisely (see the attached image). Of course one could also optimize the bombing itself and then use the staircase to save all of the three stacked blockers. Nevertheless, it's still a mystery to me how to achieve 57 saves.