Mindless's Level Database for Lemmix/Lemmini

Mantagir · May 29, 2013, 09:16:11 AM

Hey,

thank you for your answers. you helped me a lot. lemmix works out fine. thx

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lvldatabase, i'm coming

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grams88 · July 06, 2014, 01:12:46 AM

Hi everyone

I would love to encourage more of us to create levels maybe you have been thinking of doing something go for it we as a forum will try our best to help out. So lets try and get more levels uploaded if we can, I have a lot of levels to try as I have not been playing custom levels lately but I'm sure I will get back into it soon.

grams88 · October 12, 2017, 11:31:16 PM

I hear that these levels are converted to the Neolemmix, would the levels still be solvable with Neolemmix or would I have to use Lemmini or super lemmini for them? Sorry if this has already been asked before. I know there was a lot of work done to convert them.

I have loads of packs that I still have to play or complete.

namida · October 13, 2017, 12:08:17 AM

Nepster and Wafflem did most of the work on the conversions. IIRC, they made an effort to confirm the levels were solvable, rather than just blindly converting. Levels that were just barely unsolvable (eg. should be solvable but it doesn't work out due to subtle mechanics differences) often were tweaked so they would be solvable; while I think those that were far from solvable (eg. due to relying on glitches) were removed.

grams88 · October 13, 2017, 12:16:43 AM

Thanks Namida, Some of those old packs look challenging .

I remember there being a Ben Conway level that I Think may of been unsolvable if it was played on lemmini as you had to blow up a steel wall. That was an interesting level pack, I sort of played levels at random on that pack.

grams88 · October 14, 2017, 11:35:41 PM

Just a quick question, do you still download the packs from Mindless's website or is there another way you go about it? I've downloaded the Neolemmix from Namida's website and I might check to see if that works okay with the level packs.

http://lemmings-db.camanis.net/levelpack/list

A lot of nice looking packs from there.

Nepster · October 15, 2017, 08:17:51 AM

No, NeoLemmix cannot load old Lemmix .dat level packs. If you want to play the levels in NeoLemmix, download the converted levels from the Lemmix pack conversion thread (link is in the first post).

And please make sure that you got the latest stable version 11.13.18, not the latest experimental version 11.15.21. There are at the moment no packs of these levels available that can be loaded in the experimental version.

grams88 · October 18, 2017, 10:06:55 PM

Thanks Nepster, I managed to get the right Neolemmix version and it is working. Look forward to trying the levels.

Mindless · January 15, 2025, 01:32:53 AM

I finally added a proper search function to the LLDb. You can search for a level pack name, creator name, and/or level name.

There was also a major redesign of the LLDb last year. It was mentioned in another topic, but I probably should have posted about it here. You can now play levels on the LLDb, and (if you're signed in) it will keep track of which levels you've solved and your solutions.

WillLem · January 15, 2025, 02:00:29 AM

Look decent! What's the engine that the levels are played on (or does it differ depending on platform)?

Mindless · January 15, 2025, 02:11:00 AM

Quote from: WillLem on January 15, 2025, 02:00:29 AMLook decent! What's the engine that the levels are played on (or does it differ depending on platform)?

It's just Golems compiled to WebAssembly.

When uploading a level pack, you can pick which (DOS-based) game variant the level pack should use (though almost all the level packs that were already uploaded have been set to the "Golems" variant, which is mostly compatible with CustLemm but slightly nicer in my opinion).

Integrating a player into the LLDb was actually the original purpose of Golems. The only reason I released it as a Windows application was so that creators could test their level packs in the "Golems" variant since there's no other engine with that mode. (Not that there seem to be any new level packs being created for Lemmings/Lemmix, but I do hope.)

WillLem · January 15, 2025, 05:09:53 AM

Quote from: Mindless on January 15, 2025, 02:11:00 AMThe only reason I released it as a Windows application was so that creators could test their level packs in the "Golems" variant since there's no other engine with that mode. (Not that there seem to be any new level packs being created for Lemmings/Lemmix, but I do hope.)

Well, even if not much new content is created for the older engines, it's still great that we can now play (or at least see for ourselves) some of the older custom levels that sometimes get referred to in discussions but are otherwise unavailable on the newer engines.

Cheapo and CustLemm both still get mentioned a fair bit in spite of not being in Forum-wide use for... more than a decade, I'd guess?

namida · January 17, 2025, 08:37:08 AM

About two decades, I'd say - Lemmix made them both pretty much irrelevant. CustLemm especially, due to Lemmix being able to almost perfectly play CustLemm content (aside from early Lemmix missing some obscure glitches, as well as triggered traps in Lemmix resetting one frame faster than DOS/CustLemm - but this didn't get noticed even during the height of challenge runs (and I suspect that if we re-tried it on a fixed version of Lemmix, some replays might break but all the solutions would be reproducible) let alone when custom content began moving to Lemmix).