Fewest different skills levels can be beaten with

Started by namida, September 17, 2009, 07:25:00 AM

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Proxima

No, that's just using diggers to do what they're designed to do (remove terrain). Doesn't the Taxing 22 solution referred to use the direct drop glitch?

Fernito

Here's a 92% savings replay of Mayhem 30, using only builders and bashers.
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nobody

This is my replay of Taxing 22 with only diggers and builders. No glitches.

Minim

I did Tricky 11 with builders and bashers, builders and miners, builders and diggers and builders and bombers. I 'm stuggling getting it to work with climbers and bombers though since I remember Proxima saying "Tricky 11 can be done with no builders at all!"

I also did Floaters and Builders to Tricky 12.
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Pooty

My guess with the Tricky 11 no-builders solution is you craft a steep staircase with diggers. If that's the case, you'll need no fewer than 4 different skills to make it work (Climber, Bomber, Basher, Digger), which isn't good for this challenge.
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Minim

Well, maybe not, but maybe I should look over my notes in "Guides on designing harder levels".

Oh, hang on, I have just realised something, using climbers and bombers in Tricky 11 is impossible because you only have to lose 8 lemmings. I was thinking of the first 2 bombers to break the first wall, and the final bomber to break the last wall and the others make a steep hidden staircase, but it doesn't work with 5.  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" class="smiley" />
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http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=181.msg5197#msg5197">Quote from: minimac on 2009-09-19 14:10:13
I did Tricky 11 with builders and bashers, builders and miners, builders and diggers and builders and bombers. I 'm stuggling getting it to work with climbers and bombers though since I remember Proxima saying "Tricky 11 can be done with no builders at all!"

I also did Floaters and Builders to Tricky 12.

One of my custom levels is, in essence, a 0 builder Tricky 11 solve. You get one builder but if I remember there's no blockers so you have to use it for crowd control on the right. And yea, it's not nearly as good a solution for this challenge as the standard builder/basher one.
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Minim

Ahh yes, I know that. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/smiley.gif" alt=":)" title="Smiley" class="smiley" />

And also, I didn't realise Proxima posted results for some Tricky levels either. I'll bring the link to it now.

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Taxing 26 can be completed with just builders and miners. 100% may be possible but I'm not sure. Scratch that, 100% is definitely possible  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

Minim

It's obvious that Tricky 24 works with blockers and builders. No replay, as it fits with the standard solution.
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http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=181.msg5194#msg5194">Quote from: Fernito on 2009-09-19 12:38:00
Here's a 92% savings replay of Mayhem 30, using only builders and bashers.

You saved me a lot of work there. Thanks, and well done http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

Fernito

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=181.msg5244#msg5244">Quote from: Clam Spammer on 2009-09-20 04:58:54
http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=181.msg5194#msg5194">Quote from: Fernito on 2009-09-19 12:38:00
Here's a 92% savings replay of Mayhem 30, using only builders and bashers.

You saved me a lot of work there. Thanks, and well done http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up" class="smiley" />

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This might be a bit obvious, but if Mayhem 30 had more builders, it could be done only with builders http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />
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Proxima

Well, I see the first page has been updated at last, but there are still a few errors.

* No solutions for Tricky 10? I found two: blockers+builders and builders+diggers (100%).
* Tricky 11 builders+diggers is 100%
* Tricky 12 floaters+builders is listed as a glitch. Nope, you have 50 floaters so you don't need direct drop.
* Tricky 19 is 100% (the level requires it)
* Mayhem 29 still says builders+bashers+diggers. I'm not sure whether this is a misreading of my solution (blockers+builders+diggers) or a separate solution; if the latter, both should be listed.

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Just to let you know that I love Hail 3! I did it in bashers and builders, although I'm not so sure it works with miners and builders, even though the skills are so generous.
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