What is the minimum number of skills needed to beat each level?

Minim · August 14, 2009, 04:12:24 PM

The only ones we have left are Hail levels 5 and 7, which are both very tedious.

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" title="Angry" class="smiley" /> So what I've done to wrap up your project is that I added all the skills to Hail 5. I know Hail 7 can be done with just builders so I totalled all the builders here. I'm sure they are improvable but here're the results:

Hail 5: 43
Hail 7: 25

ccexplore · August 14, 2009, 07:19:13 PM

What is it with you and a race to finish stuff?

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" title="Angry" class="smiley" /> It's not even your thread, and ClamSpammer is still on break and it'll take him a little time to absorb all the stuff that has happened the past week once he's back later today. At least I know he won't lock the thread like you do.

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I don't know why you'd even bother with such fake numbers, it's totally against the spirit of minimal number of skills when you just add up everything there is. More like a "maximum number of skills solution" you know.

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Minim · August 14, 2009, 07:36:34 PM

Like, for example, Hail 3 solved using 400 skills or Tricky 21 solved with 528 skills

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Fleech · August 14, 2009, 08:03:30 PM

Just to get us off to a more sensible start on Hail 5, I've done it using 16.

Okay, just did Hail 7 in 15.

Fleech · August 14, 2009, 08:44:20 PM

Has Hail 8 been done yet? Might have missed it but I can't see it, and I don't fancy trying it if it has.

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ccexplore · August 14, 2009, 10:23:32 PM

Just to be clear: I intend to look at the Hail levels again for real at some point. Just that since ClamSpammer's on a fast for the past week (and therefore won't be updating the "scoreboard" on the 1st post), I rather thought this thread could wait while there are newer challenge threads of fresher interest to look at.

Patience can be a virtue, you know.

Fleech · August 14, 2009, 10:53:53 PM

Fair point. I've not been rushing through for the sake of it though, I just felt like having a try since I missed most of this thread earlier on.

I believe my scores to be good, but then you guys always find ways to surprise me.

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Dullstar · August 15, 2009, 02:02:09 AM

Really makes us hope the Clam Spammer actually comes back, unlike GuyPerfect.

Clam · August 15, 2009, 02:20:07 AM

Well I've got good news for you then.

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On the other hand, I really don't feel like diving straight back into this right away (and I did mention this before I left last week). For now, I'll update the table with whatever you come up with, and then maybe I'll come back later and have a real go at it.

EDIT: Okay, I couldn't help it. Hail 9 improved to 10:

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Don't use the same lemming to build the whole bridge. Take a step back...

And Hail 15 can be done with 3 (your replay was actually very close).

And by the way, GuyPerfect did come back before leaving again.

Fleech · August 15, 2009, 09:43:29 AM

Argh, I'm kicking myself over Hail 15 having just done it in 3 quite easily.

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I did actually do what you've suggested for Hail 9, or at least partly. I've just discovered what I did wrong though. So obvious in hindsight.

Clam · August 20, 2009, 09:12:37 AM

At long last... here are the final two levels.

Hail 8: 8. This takes some insane timing

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Hail 14: 20. This really wasn't that difficult and probably shouldn't have been left for so long.

Replays attached.

And now we have a grand total across all the levels. Well done everyone

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I'll leave this thread open (unlike some people

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Minim · August 20, 2009, 09:14:40 AM

If I was hosting this topic I wouldn't lock it because some records can still be challenged.

Dullstar · August 21, 2009, 04:56:29 AM

Some people may be interested in knowing for 100%, though.

Minim · August 21, 2009, 07:15:37 AM

Oh yes, like solving 100% on Fun 7 with 2 skills. I'm sure most people have done that already. I have posted a solution for it though in another topic.

Clam · August 21, 2009, 09:20:51 AM

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=98.msg3171#msg3171">Quote from: Fleech on 2009-08-14 14:03:30

Just to get us off to a more sensible start on Hail 5, I've done it using 16.

Okay, just did Hail 7 in 15.

I finally got around to checking these two. Both can be done with one less.