NeoLemmix: Other challenges

Started by Proxima, January 12, 2021, 07:00:29 PM

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Proxima

Lots of new results to look over :P This might take a while.

Directional challenge: I've looked over Gentle so far, and all the rest look definitely impossible, except 30R (maybe a case of the talisman's existence making you forget the normal solution? :P ) and 31L (tricky, but no more so than some of the ones you already did!)

Minim

I have finally verified and solved Lunatic 4 right! This should also theoretically be doable on DOS. I now have a big bundle with this replay attached. The rest of my Lunatic Right results are:

R: 4, 6, 11, 14, 15, 17, 21, 23-25, 31.

And yes, I did forget to add Gentle 30R to my list. Whoops! :P
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Minim

On the spoiler tag is my workings out to Lunatic 4 Right's crowd control. It's a bit messy, with some of the letters not been chosen at all, and some of it might even be wrong too. :o But I hope this'd be a useful reference when attempting the DOS equivalent.

Spoiler
a: Lead Lemming (#0)
b: Blocker (#1)
c: Miner of starting platform 2 px ahead of group
D: Group 1 (Behind miner)
E: Group 2
F: Group 3
G: Group 4
H: Group 5
I: Group 6
J: Group 7 (Ahead of Group 1)
k: Additional 1
l: Additional 2
n: Additional 3
o: Additional 4
p: Additional 5
q: Additional 6
r: Additional 7
s: Additional 8
t: Additional 9
u: Additional 10
v: Additional 11
w: Additional 12
m: Miner of builder bridge 3px behind group but 6px ahead of first miner.

.: Safe zone
x: Avoid zone

Length of queue line loop: 77 px
Frames for miner to trap lemmings: 98 fms
Pixels gained by lemmings from blocker to miner trap: 27 px
Available space: 71 px
Minimum space required for miner to free blocker: 2 px
Minimum space required for miner to destroy bridge: 2 px
Min rate: 4
Max Rate: 11

Order: 77 frames
QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNMQWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNMQWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBN
xxxxxx..J..........I..........H..........G..........F..........E......k.....c
xxxxxx..J..........I..........H..........G..........F..........E..........D..
xxxxxx..J..........I..........H..........G..........F..........E..........D..
xxxxxx..J..........I..........H..........G..........F..........E..........D..
xxxxxx..J..........I..........H..........G..........F..........E..........D..
xxxxxxw...v...u...t...s...r...q...p......G..........F..........E..........D..


c-K: 6
K-E: 7
E-F: 11
G-p: 7

Lemmings hatch count: Spawn setting
48: 6
47: 7
46: 11
9: 7
8: 4

Anyway, the Undamaged Levels results have arrived! The ones that are doable are not too hard, and some of them, like "Fix the road, quick!", are inherited of course. ;) However, the ones that look impossible are loud and clear I'm sorry to say, as I've solved only 39 of them.

Gentle: 2-3, 7, 9-14, 19, 20, 24, 30, 32
Quirky: 8, 16, 18, 20, 26, 32
Zany: 5, 10, 12, 16, 21, 25, 30
Manic: 2, 7, 14, 23, 30-32
Lunatic: 10, 11, 18, 26, 27.

On Gentle 9 I was able to get up and round the landscape with 6 builders to spare. On Gentle 20 I used the surroundings to my advantage. 30 is relatively easy as I made a wide stair and bashed inside it. My Quirky 20 solution feels like a talisman backroute I think, particularly if it's silver. Zany 5 is also quite easy too, after connecting two bridges across the river. Zany 12 just requires building into the steps to hold the other lemming, nothing too hard. Lunatic 26 and 27 are the published fastest time solutions.

Solutions to some of the harder levels are attached in a bundle, but I think Manic levels 14 and 32 are the best challenges of the lot. I also thought Quirky 27: "The Island of the Wicker People" would be doable too, but if only there was a way to free a blocker while staying on the builder's staircase... Because you need all five builders to navigate your way to the exit.
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Proxima

Nice work! I'm sorry to say that you did miss a few 8-)

Gentle 22 "Let's be careful out there" I'm guessing was just a slip, since you solved its harder version :P
Gentle 27 "Quest for Kieran" works with the fixed version I released last night.
Zany 24 "I have a cunning plan" is solvable with builders only.

...and it does look like the rest are indeed impossible.

Proxima

The new version of "Quest for Kieran" is much more challenge-friendly than the old one 8-) (Of course, that wasn't the reason for making the change; the old one was simply inaccurate to how the level is supposed to be.)

It's still possible with skills to one lemming (the 2-skill solution meets this criterion). It's possible with one skill per lemming; 1 of each skill; and undamaged (as I posted just above). Obviously, Don't Turn Around and skills to left-facing lemmings only are also possible.

Minim

Right. A month on and the 99 Release Rate records are out (Including updated ones)!

Gentle: All except 27.
Quirky: 1, 3-12, 14-27, 29-32.
Zany: All except 27 and 30.
Manic: 1-8, 10-29, 32.
Lunatic: 1-2, 4, 6-11, 14-19, 21-24, 26, 28-32.

Here's a hint for Lunatic 19: Private room available.
Spoiler
The terrain in the grid has a pattern which gives diggers an advantage.

And for Lunatic 11: Fix the road, quick!
Spoiler
The first gap isn't that long. There are three different types of builder tricks used. Pulling all of them off correctly will save you more than the requirement and more builders.

Good luck matching (or bettering) these results!
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Proxima

A few more RR99 replays:

Gentle 27 "Quest for Kieran" (requires the updated version, with the closer exit)
Manic 31 "Where Lemmings Dare"
Lunatic 25 "Watch right or left (Part Two)"
Lunatic 27 "Let's go camping"

Minim

Oh dear. :( On my first run I tried to do something different and create a pack of 99RR levels for my first run, so that I didn't have to repeatedly press the Right mouse button every time; and tried not to constantly fill results on my document. NeoLemmix crashed at a point during my first run while I was very close to the end, losing all my progress. When I got back, the second time round I decided to fill a document. By the time I got to Lunatic 25 and 27, I literally forgot how to solve them. I must thank Proxima for completing these two. Those were simply overlooked.


Anyway, NeoLemmix Results for the "Don't turn Around" challenges are out. These results are based on every lemming allowed a maximum of one turn for each level.
Gentle: 1-2, 5-10, 12-15, 17-20, 22, 24, 26, 27, 30-32.
Quirky: 1-2, 6, 11, 13, 15, 21, 31.
Zany: 5, 10-13, 19, 24, 26, 28, 30.
Manic: 4, 6-7, 9, 14, 15, 30.
Lunatic: 23-25.

Best challenge award goes to Zany 28. Otherwise this was a particularly boring challenge for me, so I'll leave the unsolvable levels to somebody else. :XD: Zany 19 is similar to the Silver Talisman. Thanks to the left facing entrance, Manic 24 is not possible AFAIK because you have to cross the level with every lemming with one go, especially with the poles are too high, and the floaters sorely lacking. Lunatic 24 looks more like a severe backroute (again) despite the level fixes implemented earlier. 25 is simply the fastest time solution. Interesting replays attached in a zip file.

OK, I've done my bit for today. I have my birthday to look forward to tomorrow so good night.
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Both Engines: #3