New Pack Progress (MASTER-88 MENACE) New Name (Update 31.5.24

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EDIT 31.5.2024*********************************
Technically maded all levels. One level might be changed in future when new neolemmings version comeout. Its might make it impossible level, but its will work current 12.12.5 version. So let me know about this when its changed. Have to replace this level, because its contains tricks, which will be fixed in next version.

Otheriwse few level spend testing (Hope Armani are active summer time). Also will set talsimans and run out my own replays and patch routes, set more graphic things and stuff. New music list. Some unique not are hear my custom + series.

About my pack. There will be 150 levels (might make 151 if i have to replace this one)  Its possible i´ll make expansion updates later. But im not started make any new huge packs in future.

My Pack will run out 1-5 Difficult

Step 1: Noobie Tour (Its strated harder than my custom+ series.) Its Equal more Oh no More Lemmings Tame-Crazy
Step 2: Advance Tour (Okay now game strating) Its very important play this mode or i´ll seriosly hope you are completed IchoTolot Advance Training levels. I´ll train much Advance tricks here, but all those are easy setups.
Step 3: Genius Tour (First Middle is also advance tricks trainings. When its goes end its strated goes very hard.
Step 4 Intense Tour (This mode is Very Tough) Its might be my best mode if you want very high challenge, but not rage quit too much.
Step 5 Hopeless Tour (PURE NIGHTMARE) Super Hard plans and super hard executions. Some those levels are simply genius. Some levels contains very hard tricks. I´ll recommend don´t play this mode level by level. Just skip levels which frustrated and be back later. Make a lot practice replays when worked this.


ORGINAL POST**********************************************




I started work that some week ago. Like my custom +3  i´ll plan make 150 levels. Easy-Extreme. With this time im not learn new skills, so starting are little bit more harder than my Custom+ series packs.

I am Crane 1.05 version pack test player. And i have to say i am did my job very well at this point. But sadge we have to denied so many genius ideas. Crane want be keep his own pack unique and perfect. But those denied ideas are really useful. I´ll sure most persons never are see those tricks what i have to throw when i we keep test player job. That what we work Divise Action and Splashdown. There was around 10 backroutes both levels. We fixed those perfect. That was so tired. We both was tired. But those denied ideas will goes deep grave. So i think its good time and motivations make new pack myself which used those unique tricks.

My plan is use those denied ideas my own pack what i´ll work. Yes i am learn a lot better lemmings players when i am work Crane 1.05 version. Crane is very genius and very good lemmings player. I am still sometimes little bit bullzoder and awesome trick thrower.



Let see. I´ll back that progress later when i am done with Crane 1.05 version. My custom+ triology is ended. That was my 2nd longest project. Total 394 levels and 3 years. My longest project was SNES lemmings max point. Started 2010 and there is still few levels possible improve, How ever its seems TAS only.



Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

 I am make good progress with my pack. Armani is only who are played some my hardest Proto type levels. I´ll want make just sure im not got pass too many cheap ways. with extreme levels.

I am quite motivated my new progress. Crane pack are give me a lot ideas and tons new tricks. Though most those ones are denied  and patched Crane levels, so i´ll make my own version those tricks.

My pack idea is basically very similar as custom+ series. This pack is intented run through 5 Difficulty (My orginal plan is make 30 per each difficulty (maybe 25) I´ll aim 30, but those EXTREME Levels are really slow to make.

Step 1: Noobie Tour (Levels are easy, some casual tricks) much skills and new boards. (Most those boards come harder remake later difficult) My system used 2 level remake like custom+ series
Step 2: Advance Tour (Levels starting are easy, mostly infinite skills and advance trick training. Middle of difficulty there will be a lot short practice levels, which will learn most those harder advance tricks with easy situation. You will need those later. At this point its important to play levels if you miss any tricks you will towards to wall end of the game. Yeah all those advance tricks are never show even advance traing packs. There is few trick i founded by Crane pack when i was test player, but those was denied.
Step 3: Genius Tour (This Step is cunning)  Still learn some superadvance tricks. Most board are quite difficult and complicated.
Step 4: Intentnse Tours (Most Step 1 mode hardest remake will be here) At this point my pack goes hard. Those levels not have to be EXTREME.
Step 5 Hopeless Tour (Making EXTREME Levels, every levels have to be includes at least 1-2 or more sharp elements. Armani are test player few my hopeless tour levels. At this point i am make only 3/30 EXTREME levels, but those 3 really are EXTREME category. Because those sharp elements includes. Have to thanks also Armani solved my two solution and i have to add one sharp things at least one, we make this level very well.

I´ll be glad if i can make at least 1-2 EXTREME Level per week. I´ll also plan final level is not EXTREME category. Like my previous pack i´ll plan it Huge level like Custom +3 final leve ls 25 minutes to long and got perfect theme. Im not currently have good theme.

Hope we make next awesome pack springtime 2024. That my pack name also demo. I´ll plan some better name later. Ideas about pack name is welcomed.



Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

Over 100 levels are done.. But at this point its risk i´ll lost my inspiration. Its really hard make multifaceted levels with very-hard/extreme mode. I can easily make levels easier difficulty.

My intention is make 150 levels like custom +3. Orginal custom +3 includes only 120 level. Add those 30 over year later.

So im not are plan how much level i´ll actually make its might be even more than 150 or less, but i think its will be pack update then, because im not goes make another huge pack anymore. Those EXTREME category levels are really hard to make. Usually you need very good idea and then very hard executions and tons testing.

I´ll attempt make my pack demo version done End of December. I am currently make some 100 levels+, but most those are easy Step 1-3 levels. Step 4 & 5 levels are brutally hard to make.

Like my Custom +series. This pack contains retro level style. Somereason i have really hard make boards with new style levels, so i used orginal/oh no more type levels. Custom +2 contains 4 Special levels and those was good ones. I´ll keep my retro style also here. That also one reason i liked so much Crane pack. Yeah Crane are inspirated me a lot.

BTW
At this point this look my levels are pretty shorth. I counted avarage lenght is 2-3 minutes. Longest level i make a tonight was 15 minutes time limit (but its could be done easier sub 10 minutes) But this level is really unique. At this point i ranked it my best level. How ever long level like this, i have to forget shaprh elements and etc.... But its really mathematical Take pens and paper and i did my personal records with practice replays. At least its different than my causal levels.

Be right back. Hope we got some Demo Version out end of December. My intention is show this my brother when we meet. I maybe not public demo version. But i am artist my inspiration can continue or totally lost. That happen when i did my custom +3. So i´ll back it over year later and make large update.

Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

I still work my pack, but for sure even 1:00 version not are done in this year, not even Demo version. This pack will be huge. 150 levels plan. Expansion might even more.

Armani are played most my prototype levels. I´ll warning. This pack will contains some frame perfect levels in Step 5. Even Armani not want make shot with those levels. There is around 3-4 levels which requires those frame timings.. Not just trash entire pack away and just moved next level. I´ll later make list RAGE levels. You can solved those "RAGE" Levels just yourself and feel euphoria when you are done. Othwise just skip those levels and moved next one.

Why hell i make those levels. Some peoples like crazy challenges. I was example when i push off Frame perfet slide glithc SNES Mayhem 2 Boiler Room. Its take 8 hours on console and 6 days emulator practice. When i did it on console i was super happy.

But those levels will be just guys/girls who really enjoy shit challenge yourself.

In my 150 level packs. There will be only 4-5 levels which could required that shit and all those are short ones. I´ll warning those levels. I think my pack first version might be done Spring 2024 and ithen i´ll list those rage quit levels. Just don´t play those levels and moved just next. If you want show your master skill play those levels and enjoy just keep going. Usually 2-4 hours is enoought. Sometimer more.

That warn.
Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

Still work my new pack. Two levels in this month. I counted 135/150 levels done.

Yest i got totally burnouted end of the year 2023. Right now new much good ideas. Hopefully peolples enjoy my custom + series. Its my one longest lemmings progress ever.
Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

Nearly Done my new pack. Less than 10 levels remain 150 level pack. I started this project year ago, when i ended Crane Pack 1.05 version testplayer progress. I just keep few months break, when my ideas totally goes empty, but i got many nice ideas/levels few weeks ago and back to work that insane pack.

11 hours a today and 8 hours yesterday still only 4 new levels.  I totally burners make forced tricks levels. I did some those ones last year, but that was too tedious. So im not worry very about backroutes my new levels expect few ones.

Hell yeah this will be my greates lemmings pack ever. Even better than Custom +3. Difficult will be Medium/Extrme. Like my custom + series learn all skills one by one. This pack doesn´t so its goes medium difficult quite quickly. Even Step 1 end will be somewhere challenge to beat.

EDIT:
There is one ??? level done. Is new Neolemmings version updated? There is one bug which will be remove newer version. So i´ll keep this level yet. Will change it or remove it? Thats depend how this bug is fixed.
Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

Techinically my pack is done, at least maded all 150 levels. Some levels spend test playing talisman things and etc... I also lost some my replays in cyberspace, so i have to replayed some levels. Luckily not any Step 5 levels. :XD: Those ones are brutals.

I´ll also might make another level. There is one level which will work correct current Neolemmings V 12.12.5 Version. But trick might be fixed later versions. So its might goes impossible level later. So i´ll just have to think did i´ll build another level or did i´ll keep this as long as new neolemmings version update is done. Then i have to update that level or completely change it another one.

Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0

MASTER-88

Armani is so awesome test player. He is bullzoder and can break nearly eveythings abouts lemmings. Few levels back to testing. Levels which have strong skills a lot is very dangerous one.

If you pass any single things with those levels, its will be totally backroutes. I also figured out that things when i was Crane pack test player. Those strong skills allow a lot and technically impossible make perfect. So usually make long levels i´ll accept several soltuions to done and accept all.

How ever i´ll happy if i can patch 85-90% those ones. Armani are helped me a lot about my pack. Few those levels take tons attempts. But hope with Armani help i can got my greates pack ever. Hell yeah its not possible make pack like this without superb testplayer. We have to watch so many things.

Expect Crane EXTREME pack. I´ll myself allow a lot more unintention things, but here is few levels which learn your use some super advance tricks, i cannot accept any backroutes with those levels, because those levels idea will be ruined and yeah those type levels is most worse to make, bacause those i´ll always got break about testing. Sometimes some are impossible fix prefectly correct.

When i did those trick type levels i simply got totally burn out and just have to keep 5 months break.
Video games player.
See my youtube: Several games videos includes lemmings
http://www.youtube.com/user/metroidmaster88?feature=mhum

My Huge Lemmings Projects

Lemmings Custom + Triology 394 Levels
Custom +1 (120 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5840.0
Custom +2 (124 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5993.0
Custom +3 (150 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6014.0
Amiga Classic Special (30 Levels)
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6345.0

Lemmings World 150 Levels
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6751.msg102567#new

My SNES Lemmings MAX Points Project
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=4539.0