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kaywhyn

It's very likely youngsters today were introduced to it by someone who grew up with the game, and would not had found out about it otherwise. You'll be surprised by those younger than you who know about this game. Definitely not that many here who are about half the game's age. Also, don't forget that people like you have access to way more today than us who are much older when we were your age. Social media, Youtube, etc. These were just barely coming into the world when I was your age and in high school, but I didn't know about them until about 2 years after they were founded and made. I got acquainted with them in my senior year of high school, months before I went off to college. It's probably not likely youngsters today will accidentally stumble upon game information on these sites, but with how very easy it is to find information online on practically everything, maybe sooner or later they will, if ever.

It's hard to believe that next year the game will be 30 years old.
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Armani

Welcome to the forum Stretchie :D

Hope you have a good time here. :thumbsup:
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namida

Quote from: kaywhyn on August 16, 2020, 03:55:39 AM
Like Namida said, some members, including himself, were younger than you when they registered for the forums. Believe it or not, a lot of us here who came way before you got acquainted with the game Lemmings at an age younger than your current age, especially those here who were around not way before the game came out. It makes sense, because remember, the game came out in 1991, and it seems a lot of members here were around in the 80s/90s. I was introduced to the game when I was around 6 or 7, and I'm one of several people here who's older than the game (I'm 1989). I think currently there are way more members here younger than those older than the game, although it might be really close.

In my case, I first knew of Lemmings at about age 3 or 4, when we had a copy of it on a DOS computer. I say "had a copy" because, this PC had no mouse and I never figured out keyboard controls, so all I could actually do was start up the first level of each rank and watch the lemmings walk around (or splat, in the case of Mayhem). Were it not for this, it would have outright been my first non-edutainment video game - but this matter resulted in Commander Keen 4 taking that title instead. Not too much later we got a Sega Master System where I was able to play the game for real; and not too much later than that we got a PC with a mouse so I could play the PC version too. I would have been maybe 6 or 7 at most when I reached Mayhem 29, + found the code for Mayhem 30 and completed it. Never actually completed Mayhem 29 on PC until many years later; Master System was another story, but then, that version has a very different Mayhem 29 (as in a completely different level altogether - and a ridiculously easy one at that).
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

kaywhyn

Quote from: namida on August 16, 2020, 06:49:41 PM
In my case, I first knew of Lemmings at about age 3 or 4, when we had a copy of it on a DOS computer. I say "had a copy" because, this PC had no mouse and I never figured out keyboard controls, so all I could actually do was start up the first level of each rank and watch the lemmings walk around (or splat, in the case of Mayhem). Were it not for this, it would have outright been my first non-edutainment video game - but this matter resulted in Commander Keen 4 taking that title instead. Not too much later we got a Sega Master System where I was able to play the game for real; and not too much later than that we got a PC with a mouse so I could play the PC version too.

Makes me wonder how we learned the keyboard controls when we first got a copy of the game. If you recall, my dad so happened to have a floppy disk on him when we were out at some family social event, and he essentially copied the files onto it so that we were able to install it later on our computer at home. Since we didn't have any game documentation or anything, I wondered how we learned the various keyboard controls for the game. Or maybe the game files included a readme file on the game? I don't recall.

How interesting! I was acquainted with Commander Keen 4 at around the same age as you! Not sure how we got a copy of it, though. I never completed the game at the time, although I remembered the game during my high school years and I finished it for real in the summer months just before leaving for college.
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namida

QuoteHow interesting! I was acquainted with Commander Keen 4 at around the same age as you! Not sure how we got a copy of it, though. I never completed the game at the time, although I remembered the game during my high school years and I finished it for real in the summer months just before leaving for college.

I completed it back then, but I never found how to access the Pyramid of the Forbidden until a bit later (though still a long time ago now).
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

Proxima

Quote from: kaywhyn on August 16, 2020, 09:09:06 PMMakes me wonder how we learned the keyboard controls when we first got a copy of the game. If you recall, my dad so happened to have a floppy disk on him when we were out at some family social event, and he essentially copied the files onto it so that we were able to install it later on our computer at home. Since we didn't have any game documentation or anything, I wondered how we learned the various keyboard controls for the game. Or maybe the game files included a readme file on the game? I don't recall.

I grew up with the Mac version, and although it did come with a manual, it didn't have any indication of the keyboard controls the Mac version has (Z and X for previous skill, P for pause, shift for fast-forward, alt for walker-only select). I think we just discovered these by chance while playing (P at least was easy to guess). I seem to remember that I have talked to someone else who played the Mac version (maybe finlay?) and he didn't know it had fast-forward until I told him :P

WillLem

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kaywhyn

Quote from: namida on August 17, 2020, 01:16:52 AM
I completed it back then, but I never found how to access the Pyramid of the Forbidden until a bit later (though still a long time ago now).

I remember the underwater level which I couldn't figure out as a kid. The big green dopefish always got me. If I'm not mistaken, it's pretty much one of the last levels that you complete due to having to complete another level that requires you to get the swim gear. If that's the case, I wonder how we even were able to access the underwater level. I certainly don't ever recall seeing all of the levels as a kid. I also remember a level where a glass dome disappeared and reappeared at times and at the start of the level there is a moving platform. The last time I played the game was 13 years ago, and that was only my second time, so I'm not as familiar with it as you are.

Quote from: Proxima on August 17, 2020, 01:51:22 AM
I grew up with the Mac version, and although it did come with a manual, it didn't have any indication of the keyboard controls the Mac version has (Z and X for previous skill, P for pause, shift for fast-forward, alt for walker-only select). I think we just discovered these by chance while playing (P at least was easy to guess). I seem to remember that I have talked to someone else who played the Mac version (maybe finlay?) and he didn't know it had fast-forward until I told him :P

That's interesting. I'm guessing the only really useful info in it was how to install the game? I grew up with the Dos PC version of the game. I later owned a CD version that bundled both the original and ONML together. Here, I don't think there was a box cover, just a jewel CD case, as I certainly don't recall ever having access to a manual along with the CD. I might be remembering wrong about a box cover. This was the one that had the increased splat height, as well as a bug where it was possible to bash the wrong way with OWWs. I recall being able to do that with Crazy 10 (hence the level was much easier than intended and you didn't even need to send a lemming to the bottom of the level and only needed 1 worker lemming) and Wild 12. Speaking of which, I think they're the only levels in ONML with OWWs.
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namida

QuoteIf I'm not mistaken, it's pretty much one of the last levels that you complete due to having to complete another level that requires you to get the swim gear. If that's the case, I wonder how we even were able to access the underwater level. I certainly don't ever recall seeing all of the levels as a kid. I also remember a level where a glass dome disappeared and reappeared at times and at the start of the level there is a moving platform.

The glass dome level is the very one where you get the swim gear, actually. And while players would often end up completing the underwater level close-to-last (and it is indeed one of the levels required to be completed in order to finish the game), it can be as early as the 4th level you play, after Border Village and Slug Village (both of which act as a physical barrier on the world map until completed - you can access The Perilous Pit after completing only Border Village, but aside from that you can't access any other levels until Slug Village is complete too) and Miragia (to get the swim gear).
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

kaywhyn

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The glass dome level is the very one where you get the swim gear, actually. And while players would often end up completing the underwater level close-to-last (and it is indeed one of the levels required to be completed in order to finish the game), it can be as early as the 4th level you play, after Border Village and Slug Village (both of which act as a physical barrier on the world map until completed - you can access The Perilous Pit after completing only Border Village, but aside from that you can't access any other levels until Slug Village is complete too) and Miragia (to get the swim gear).

Yea, you definitely know the game inside out. That might had been how we were able to access the underwater level so early back in the days then. I don't know what levels were completed prior to taking on the underwater level, but it couldn't had been most of the game completed, because I certainly only recall 3-5 levels at the time that I completed. When I revisited the game in the summer of 2007, the underwater level was the very last one I completed to finish the whole game. While that time was only the second time I have ever played the game, it was the very first time I actually completed the entire game.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMqwuqZ206rBWJrUC6wkrA - My YouTube channel and you can also find my playlists of Lemmings level packs that I have LPed
kaywhyn's blog: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5363.0

607

Quote from: kaywhyn on August 16, 2020, 04:57:55 AM
It's very likely youngsters today were introduced to it by someone who grew up with the game, and would not had found out about it otherwise.
That's the case for me, my father told me about the game when I was quite young. :) I guess he didn't really grow up with the game, though, as he was 17 when it came out.
PS: I found my introduction thread, if any of you are curious about my story. :P It was quite strange for me to read it again. ;)