LPII Level Voteoff Topic (Winner: Genius 8 "Panic Attack")

[namida]

Proper LPII topic is here: http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=879.0

The first set of rounds will go through every level in LPII, in sets of 10 or 11. These will be done by difficulty rank, split into Levels 1 to 10 and Levels 11 to 21. In these rounds, each user gets two votes. In these, all levels tied for first place qualify for the next round. If there is only a single level in first place, all levels tied for second place also qualify, unless they all have zero votes.

The second set of rounds will go through the qualifying levels from the first set, in a rank-by-rank basis. In these rounds, each user gets one vote if no more than 5 levels have qualified, or two votes if 6 or more levels have qualified. In these, all levels tied for first place qualify for the next round (there is no provision for second place in this set of rounds).

The next round will have all the qualifying levels from the second round. In this round, each user gets two votes if up to 8 levels qualify, or three votes if between 9 and 11 levels qualify. If 12 or more levels qualify for this round, it will be split into two sets (with an additional round between the winners of the sets), with number of votes per set being subject to the same rules as for this round in general (two for 8 or less levels, three for 9 or more).
I changed this to only two levels qualifying (instead of three) as we would've had to bring 9 levels through to the finals otherwise.

The final round will have the 3 (or more, if so due to a tie) from the previous round. In this round, each user gets one vote. In the event of a tie, another round will be held solely between the two tying levels. If they tie again, both levels win the voteoff.
Due to the above change, if the levels tie, it's a tie straight away - no sense re-doing the same poll that just tied.


-=QUALIFYING LEVELS=-

Nice 1-10: Now Figure This One Out (2nd-equal) | Together We Sand (1st) | Something's Not Right Here... (2nd-equal)
Nice 11-21: Cactus Island | These Lasers Aren't So Fun | Lemmings Gettin' Down | MEGALEMMINGS! | Live And Let Lem | To Lem, Or Not To Lem (secret) (six way tie for 1st)
Cheeky 1-10: A Violation Of Lemming Rights (1st) | Yours Treely (2nd)
Cheeky 11-21: To The Treehouse! (1st-equal) | Kickback Scheme (1st-equal)
Sneaky 1-10: Misfortune of the Masses (2nd-equal) | Rolling Rampage (1st) | Drought Season (2nd-equal)
Sneaky 11-21: When Only A Lemming Will Do (2nd) | Dive From The Dunes (1st)
Cunning 1-10: Just Some Leftovers... (2nd-equal) | Maximum Security (1st) | Shotgun Run (2nd-equal)
Cunning 11-21: Cyclic Lemming (1st-equal) | Secrets of the Lemmings (1st-equal)
Genius 1-10: Diet Control (2nd) | Panic Attack (1st)
Genius 11-21: Only A Lemming Away (1st-equal) | Wrong Way, Mister Lemming (1st-equal)

(Nice levels: Now Figure This One Out | Together We Sand | Something's Not Right Here | Cactus Island | These Lasers Aren't So Fun | Lemmings Gettin' Down | MEGALEMMINGS! | Live And Let Lem | To Lem, Or Not To Lem)
Nice winners: Now Figure This One Out | Together We Sand | Something's Not Right Here | Cactus Island | Live And Let Lem (5-way tie)
(Cheeky levels: A Violation Of Lemming Rights | Yours Treely | To The Treehouse | Kickback Scheme)
Cheeky winners: A Violation Of Lemming Rights | Kickback Scheme (2-way tie)
(Sneaky levels: Misfortune Of The Masses | Rolling Rampage | Drought Season | When Only A Lemming Will Do | Dive From The Dunes)
Sneaky winner: Rolling Rampage
(Cunning levels: Just Some Leftovers | Maximum Security | Shotgun Run | Cyclic Lemming | Secrets of the Lemmings)
Cunning winners: Maximum Security | Cyclic Lemming (2-way tie)
(Genius levels: Diet Control | Panic Attack | Only A Lemming Away | Wrong Way, Mister Lemming)
Genius winner: Panic Attack

(Qualifying levels: Now Figure This One Out | Together We Sand | Something's Not Right Here | Cactus Island | Live And Let Lem | A Violation Of Lemming Rights | Kickback Scheme | Rolling Rampage | Maximum Security | Cyclic Lemming | Panic Attack)
Top 3 2: A Violation Of Lemming Rights | Panic Attack

WINNER: Genius 8 "Panic Attack"

[namida]

We had a seven-way tie for 2nd in the last round, so only the 1st places have passed through. Too complicated otherwise, and besides, do we really expect anything other than for those two to win?

Also, it won't let me delete my own topics anymore, so I only locked the old one.

Both my vote and my prediction for the winner go to - as I said from the start - Panic Attack.

[Minim]

A bit surprised that "A Violation Of Lemming Rights" made it to the final. It is in the right difficulty, but the long walls make this level too boring. My final vote is on Panic Attack.

[Akseli]

Okay, my votes throughout the whole thing were:
1st round: Nice - "Together We Sand", "Something's Not Right Here..." and "MEGALEMMINGS!", "To Lem, Or Not To Lem"
Cheeky - "A Violation of Lemming Rights", "Yours Treely" and "To The Treehouse!", "Kickback Scheme"
Sneaky - "Rolling Rampage", "Drought Season" and "Dive From The Dunes", "A Two-Pronged Approach"
Cunning - "Just Some Leftovers", "Droppin' Bombs" and "Cyclic Lemming", "Secrets Of The Lemmings"
Genius - "Diet Control", "Panic Attack" and "Dungeon of Death", "Wrong Way, Mister Lemming"

2nd round: Nice - "Together We Sand", "Something's Not Right Here..."
Cheeky - "To The Treehouse!"
Sneaky - "Rolling Rampage"
Cunning - "Cyclic Lemming"
Genius - "Panic Attack"

Semi-finals: "Rolling Rampage", "Cyclic Lemming", Panic Attack"

Finals: "Panic Attack"

Some comments of mine on the levels http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=879.msg18289#msg18289" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">here.
The "biggest mistake" of this game was imo the elimination of Cunning 4: "Droppin' Bombs", the level that brought a whole new perspective to bombing art in Lemmings games. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/winktounge.gif" alt=";P" title="Wink-Tongue" class="smiley" />

I've been wondering if people have even played all the levels in this set? :0 How they then will make their decisions on which levels to vote? Möbius said that he was playing Cheeky, Proxima reached Sneaky (?), geoo made it to Cunning but he isn't here to vote, others didn't even talk about their playing experiences with this pack. Also I noticed that the last voter in the last round gave only one vote, not three.

[Proxima]

I have played all the levels -- I don't have unlimited free time, so after completing the first three categories, I used your replays to speed up my progress through the rest.

I don't agree about "Droppin' Bombs" -- that level was certainly original, but it was relatively obvious what to do. For me, the level I was disappointed to see eliminated early was "No Construction Zone". Perhaps it lost votes because it recycled a theme from the first Lemmings Plus, but to me it was a cleaner and more interesting example of the theme. Or maybe I'm overthinking things and it lost out just because it was in competition with other excellent levels  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

[namida]

Well, it looks like our winner is Panic Attack - though by a very small margin!!!

Thanks for the votes, guys. =)

Proxima: I wouldn't say that level missed out by a huge margin. I myself considered giving my second vote for that set to it.

[Proxima]

Well, it's a fair result. I think the best level in LPII won and the second-best level came second.

It was a pleasure to take part. And, to answer a question you asked in one of the now-deleted topics, I think you should do one for LPDOS  http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" class="smiley" />

[namida]

Okay well, I'll close this topic now and any further discussion can go in the LPII topic itself.
I'll also start an LPDOS one. =D