Quote from: mobius on December 06, 2025, 12:59:58 AMwow, that was 10 days ago I posted? It felt like yeserday... well I skimmed over the topic quickly and I don't think you've updated these two in that time??
I solved these two with the help of SQRon, The Oubliette particularly was very tough imo, but very clever solution, if it's correct. Outside the box is likely a backroute, I saved the blocker, but it felt as least partially intended, the overall jist anyway; I don't see how else to go about it... this solution does not work for the second one.

I patched The Oubliette, but let's just say you're very close to what I intended, so the patch should now enforce it.

In the meantime, I've added a copy of Backdraft to the second post of this topic for easy finding later on (where all the other levels are!)

Quote from: Crane on December 18, 2025, 07:37:52 PMBackdraft is intended - well done!  Now I wish I did submit that to the contest instead of Lemming Ledger despite the similiarities to Redneck Redemption.  The talisman does take a fair bit of thought!

Speaking of Lemming Ledger, both that and Double Blind are backroutes, but well done on using all of the tools!  I think they can be patched, but I'll take a day or two to think about them.

Nice! I've never been a talisman-oriented player; once I've solved a level as intended, unless I can quickly see how to get a talisman, I prefer to move onto other stuff rather than spend hours chasing it, so I shall leave that to others. Backdraft is definitely a well-designed level and would have been a nice addition to the Contest - too late for its inclusion now I guess? Despite taking a fair bit of working out, the solution was certainly far more intuitive to me than Lemming Ledger; I dunno whether that will be the case for other players as well.

Backdraft is intended - well done!  Now I wish I did submit that to the contest instead of Lemming Ledger despite the similiarities to Redneck Redemption.  The talisman does take a fair bit of thought!

Speaking of Lemming Ledger, both that and Double Blind are backroutes, but well done on using all of the tools!  I think they can be patched, but I'll take a day or two to think about them.

Let's go again!

No talisman for Backdraft this time.

Spoiler

If this is the intended solution, it reminds me a little bit of Denial with turning a lemming around by climbing up and falling back down in the opposite direction. The Redneck Redemption parallel is clearer now as well, bashing right and mining left. I can't really conceive how this could be done without using the climber/floater though (presumably the talisman solve).

Well they're backroutes, but nothing too serious and hence are easy to patch out.  Even "Double Blind" allowed me to introduce some potential new red herrings.

ADDENDUM: Fixed Backdraft too.

EDIT: Fixed accidental overwrite of Lemming Ledger with Double Blind.

Decided to try something different with Backdraft!

OK cool! As long as it's not making you unhappy, I continue to enjoy the challenge

Here are a couple more solutions for Lemming Ledger and Double Blind. Hopefully I'm getting closer to your intended. Totally stumped by Backdraft though, sorry! Not even close to the non-talisman solution, let alone talisman. I definitely see the similarity to Redneck Redemption but I'd say it's harder.

Well it is a backroute, but I'm not unhappy about it as it's just the first version that hasn't been playtested yet.

In the meantime, here's the original Lemming Ledger again, this time with a locked release rate (not allowed in the contest) and a level kind of based on Redneck Redemption (I didn't choose it for the contest because it was too similar to Redneck Redemption in a way).

I've now sent Mobiethian my MNW V4.5 Demo replays to his levels. Nice job again to the co-authors on the levels! I'm quite impressed with what I saw and look forward to playtesting the complete pack whenever it gets done in the future!