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To implemet nothing is best for maintainablilty (fewest features). I can't argue with the maintainability cost unless I see what is involved. I had imagined that it's easy to draw one outlined rectangle with one library call in NL, and that it's easy to draw one outlined rectangle with one library call in the editor. But I don't know how easy it will be to design and implement the logic that will decide when you want to draw the outline, and when you want filled pixel-by-pixel trigger areas. NL is more complex than a mere trigger rectangle with no-overwrite, affect-only-terrain, ... For Giga's use case, it would be enough to outline large water triggers that don't use those complex trigger-area-affecting per-tile options.

In the end, Giga suggested that something should change here. I don't build levels for NL, but for Lix, and Lix draws the outline, and I've never had the issue in Lix, that's why I thought of the rectangular outline. Look at who's using the editor the most: That's Giga, and the other pack authors, and the other authors in the level design contests. The bug priority opinions of serious long-term users carry weight.

It's always a possibility to bluntly implement whatever roughly fits the requirement, ship it, and then reinvestigate. It's extra work, but with this bug, you won't affect formats or physics. You can implement a horrible solution and rip it out again next month, and you won't dent levels/replays that pepole have created in the meantime. The worst side effect of solving the bug in several different ways is ... people will be left with unused lines in the config file? People will complain that the second solution is hard to learn after learning the first solution?

-- Simon

Quote from: whoever on September 28, 2025, 06:35:36 PMI wanted to follow kaywhyns Video tutorial on Lemmings Reunion. But apparently he uses an older version of the levels -- e. g. Level 1.30 was substantially changed and seems now much harder to solve (if it is at all solvable). Has someone still the older version of the Levels available (for NeoLemmix)?

I can assure you that the level is still solvable. 

I attached a replay of the intended solution working on the newest version if you want to have a guide.

I wanted to follow kaywhyns Video tutorial on Lemmings Reunion. But apparently he uses an older version of the levels -- e. g. Level 1.30 was substantially changed and seems now much harder to solve (if it is at all solvable). Has someone still the older version of the Levels available (for NeoLemmix)?

There is an SMF addon for this, but I'm not sure if it's up to date - it only lists itself as compatible with 2.1RC, not the newer stable versions of the 2.1 line. This may or may not become a problem - several of our existing addons were like this, or even officially only compatible with 2.0, and only two of them caused problems when upgrading to 2.1 - the PM attachments, and the replacing "Recent posts" with "Recently updated topics" (ie: so the same topic doesn't show up in the list several times if there's multiple replies).

Just giving this a bump. Could be worth trying it for a few months over the Autumn period, see what we think?

(Silent because this user is :'(ing and bothered so much. Read my hatelist.) I like your composeface (soundfont). It's funny that I played my .mids, the Lemmings for Windows 95 .mids, and the Lemmings 3D .mids on this composeface!

  STRIKE!
On Saturday, September 20, he was declared silent.

I have moved this topic to General Discussion, as it was completely off topic for the Other Projects board. I have also removed a comment which served no purpose other than to insult another forum member (even if one who can be frustrating at times). We'll leave it at that for now, I think we both know very well what happens if that kind of conduct continues though.

They are EVIL! I don't like them.

Here is the list:
Insects - Entomophobia, buzzing noises, and supense that the insect starts to fly away, but except for virtual insects and virtual buzzes
Skull emojis - This makes me instantly silent for the rest of the day.
Exclamations in parenthesises - Examples: (even if you don't think it is!), (i.e. me!), and (for less than the price of a cup of coffee!)
Fighting or beating up dust clouds
Grawlixes - Comical or typographical
Censor bars (such as plain black)
Any censoring
Bleep censors - Default: 1000 Hertz
NO64
Online bullies
TikTok
Exaggerations
Asterisks as emphasis and censorship
Any censoring method
Akward tumbleweeds except for realistic desert tumbleweeds
Awkward cricket noises
The "? Well,"s
Baddie modern slangs - Examples: AFAIK (<color=red>As fuck</color> as I know), fudging, shitty, Russia
Diapers?
Kid-friendly text style
Question marks in parenthesis - Examples: (Ctrl+F11 or sometimes Ctrl+Shift+F11?)
Strikethrough text

If I see or hear one of these, you'll bother me! Suffer more and I will be silent!

I can listen these .mids with random composefaces, with different types of instruments and percussion, such as my reverbing Android soundset and with no reverb, my dream composeface, the old Samsung SONiVOXFM soundfont, and more...