Quote from: kaywhyn on December 15, 2025, 10:55:50 PMI appreciate you wanting to help out on this front, but that won't be necessary. I've already converted most of the packs or have gotten permission from the author(s) themselves to handle it. Not to mention there's plenty of packs listed that can't be converted to modern NL because many of the levels feature culled elements from earlier NL formats, in particular radiation and slowfreeze, or gimmicks as in the case of Lemmicks.

Yeah, I'm aware you have already converted some packs, but there are still quite a few that haven't been. I successfully converted AEF's Be Smart! pack earlier today. I'm just playing through to make sure it's all solvable and I was going to post it up afterwards, but if you expressly don't want me to, I'll respect your wishes as moderator. Just seems like duplicated effort for anyone else who might want to play the pack on NL 12 to have to do their own conversion.

Quote from: JawaJuice on December 15, 2025, 01:45:04 PMI would be happy to undertake the conversion of these packs as a background project. It's going to take a while as I would need to correctly name the nxlv files created (0001, 0002 etc isn't ideal) and create nxmi files etc so that the packs are up to modern standards and just playable out of the box, so to speak.

I appreciate you wanting to help out on this front, but that won't be necessary. I've already converted most of the packs or have gotten permission from the author(s) themselves to handle it. Not to mention there's plenty of packs listed that can't be converted to modern NL because many of the levels feature culled elements from earlier NL formats, in particular radiation and slowfreeze, or gimmicks as in the case of Lemmicks. Regarding Strato's other packs, he's doing a remastering by taking some levels from his earlier packs and making changes especially to those levels that had radiation/slowfreeze so they work in New Formats NL. So, don't need to worry about those since the author is handling that.

Also some authors have wished for their pack not to be converted to modern NL and hence that needs to be honored and respected.

Quote from: jkapp76 on December 15, 2025, 05:24:38 PMI would love to see a list of every pack that works on the latest Lemmix engine. This will help completionists download every playable level pack too.

Great idea, but such a list should go in the SuperLemmix board, and most definitely in a SuperLemmix Levels board if there is one. Certainly you or anyone is free to make and post such a list, using Armani's spreadsheet as a template or a different one  

I've now played through these levels as well and have attached my replays I only needed to play Armani's and Crane's levels for each ruleset, as I pre-tested all of Icho's levels as usual, and I of course know what's intended for my levels These levels for the most part weren't as difficult as I thought they be, so to be honest it surprises me some people needed help and hints, Armani's levels especially Hehe, of course only I would say that, coming from someone who has a lot of custom level solving experience IMO Armani's levels this time are much easier than they usually are, and I have stated plenty of times that I tend to struggle with his levels more than Icho's Armani's R3 is probably the hardest here, though it's psychological intimidation more than anything. Interestingly enough, the level that took me the longest to solve was Crane's R1, though here I stress that I saw the solution after a bit but it took me a while to figure out how to get the right timing and for it to work out in the end

In any case, all my solutions to Armani's and Crane's levels look intended to me?

Feedback on R1 Levels 

Armani's Underroot R1V1

Wow, nice level! The first thing I figured out here was which exit is the only possible one, and I quickly knew that it has to be the middle one. All right, good start. I send out an athlete to the right, bash through to the left from the top right, build across the gap, mine through the middle floating platform, and I saw that he later gets stuck in an endless loop once he goes past the left exit. I also saw that perhaps it's intended to bomb the emerald on the right to free the crowd to get them to the middle exit. Man, so close, I thought! If only he could climb up to the starting platform to do so. Wait, what if I dug at the start? First I tried as far left as possible for it. Would had worked if it weren't for that dang overhang blocking the climber. Darn! Tried it by placing the digger a bit further back and saw that it stops at the right spot for him to be able to climb back up later. Aha! Then it was just a matter of placing the blocker right at the edge of the digger tunnel so that he can slip under the blocker field. Genius!  

Crane's Lemming Ledger R1V9

Ok, this one took a bit longer than expected but only because the hard part for me here was figuring out how to get the timing to be right so that only one Lemming needs the floater to survive the fall on the right side. There's also plenty of other things that look like they can work but don't because you would end up losing the climber which he is needed to bomb the rest of the way for the crowd to proceed towards the exit later on. That pixel too high for Lemmings to get up the long miner tunnel even after bombing at the end is pretty evil I'm guessing that part needed some backroute fixing? Ultimately, the concept is nice, but all that trial and error to get the timing right to get the solution to work out made the level not as enjoyable for me as it should had been. Sorry, I'm generally find levels whose solutions aren't super hard to figure out but takes so much fiddling to get everything to work not enjoyable Personal preferences is all

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Feedback on R2 Levels

Armani's Rusty Ruin Zone R2V3

Wow, this is a great level as well! The builders here are the hardest to figure out IMO. I also at first thought the portal was just decoration for some odd reason That perfect timing for the Lemmings to reach the middle at about the right time is genius, with making bridges meet to stop the splatting from the splat field. Same thing with digging and then cancel him with a builder so he doesn't fall through to the bottom like the one who gets the button at the top will. Finally, parking the Lemming who builds to the right after digging so he can be lasered free by the Lemming on the bottom right and then shimmy to reach the top exit is also clever. Nice work, and in one of Dexter's tilesets!  

Crane's Redneck Redemption R2V4

Another easy one to figure out, but ack, that talisman which, similar to your R1, took so much fiddling around before I got it to work. After a while, I figured out what such a solution would look like but thought if it's what I think it is, it's going to be a pain to execute. I suppose because this is an optional talisman requirement that doesn't follow the 1 Lemming to each exit rule it's fine, but next time I would have such follow the rule. You could of course always add it after the contest is over

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Feedback on R3 Levels

Armani's Benzene R3V1

Not as difficult as it looks despite the overwhelming large level size with pickups scattered all around, with of course some obvious ones that you won't be able to collect. I nearly had the solution but as it was really late at night and I couldn't really think from being tired after puzzling my way through with the first two rulesets, I decided to leave it for after getting a good night's rest. Turns out I fell for the trap of building over the exit, which would cause one to be a builder short. Also one part near the exit requires two builders to clear instead of the usual one like most other platforms. Nice level. And look at that, I think it's coincidence that both your R3 and Icho's R3 require building to the L3 Biolab pillar to seal off the basher tunnel

Crane's Reverse Polarity R3V8

Another one that I needed to leave for the night after trying for a bit and having no success on Armani's R3 after also exhausting my brainpower from the first two rulesets. At one point I also came really close to the solution but the Lemming who used the bottom left arrived too late to catch one of the Lemmings by building and hence I kept being a Lemming short of the requirement. Turns out it simply needed a small RR tweak at the start, enough so that the last Lemming out of the trapdoor could dig the blocker free but not so early so that everyone can slip out of the tunnel. My solution still cuts it very close to losing that one Lemming, so maybe there are easier ways to execute the solution At the same time, seems to be that build a bit back but far enough forward so that one builder brick is enough to catch the Lemming on time instead of start building at the very edge of the platform. I'm also curious how Icho backrouted this level of yours. 

Will get videos up covering these contest entries in the coming days    

I would love to see a list of every pack that works on the latest Lemmix engine. This will help completionists download every playable level pack too.

Quote from: whoever on December 08, 2025, 02:11:42 PM

Quote from: LemSteven on August 15, 2020, 02:22:31 AM11-4: Let's get those fingers moving
Bad: ... although it really doesn't affect the solution much, there is a big chunk of steel that is actually mineable.

Very short video of the mineable steel mentioned by LemSteven.

Quote from: whoever on December 02, 2025, 11:20:10 AM

Quote from: mobius on December 05, 2022, 12:39:42 AM12-6 Last One to the Top.....
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I've never had a weasel be set free and not die from the shredders but that seems like a remote possibility.

It is indeed possible. I was a bit shocked today when I thought I had won the game with 100% and suddenly the weasel appeared...

Fascinating! Youve answered an age old quesion. They went out of their way on this one to make it look visually interesting,  while sacrificing playability again...

Yes, it worked! Thanks Armani!

I would be happy to undertake the conversion of these packs as a background project. It's going to take a while as I would need to correctly name the nxlv files created (0001, 0002 etc isn't ideal) and create nxmi files etc so that the packs are up to modern standards and just playable out of the box, so to speak.

It seems a shame to keep these all to myself though, especially if I put a bit of work into it, so I would propose sharing them once converted so that everyone else can play them on NL V12 if they wish. Would it best to create a topic per converted pack do you think, or a single topic like 'Old pack conversions' which I update periodically?

@IchoTolot @JawaJuice
You both found the intended solution! Well done

@JawaJuice

Technically, converting old level packs so they can be played in the latest version of NeoLemmix is not a huge job. Though up to now, level packs created in old formats have usually been converted to NXLV and maintained when there was a user who was willing to do so typically for highly regarded packs.

If you want to convert old levels in order to play them yourself in latest NeoLemmix, here are some ways to convert level files from various formats into NXLV files.


nxp → lvl

Drag and drop the nxp file you want to convert onto nxpextract.exe.
(Do not run nxpextract.exe directly, just drag the nxp file onto the nxpextract.exe icon )


ini → lvl

Run NeoLemmix Editor 1.43
Go to Tools → Mass Format Converter
Click Add Files and select the level files you want to convert
Select Style: SuperLemmini and click OK
Click Convert


dat → lvl

Run DatPacker.exe
Go to File → Open and select the dat file you want to convert
Select the contents you want to extract (levels, styles etc..)
Click Extract


lvl → nxlv

Create a folder under NeoLemmix 12.9.4\levels and put the level files you want to convert into it
Run NeoLemmix.exe and press F8
The converted results will appear in the Cleanse folder

If anything is unclear, feel free to ask!

Another question, @Armani or @kaywhyn, presumably it would be a big job to convert the packs listed under 'for NeoLemmix V10 or older' where 'Converted for NeoLemmix V12' is 'N', e.g. Be Smart!? I tried to use the NXPConverter tool on a couple but they didn't work (I've never had any luck making that tool work!)

Ok, Lemmings Rundown is 100% verified solvable. Definitely easier than Lemmingshades IMO, up until the Taxing rank, where as mentioned the difficulty ramps up significantly. Similarly, Mayhem is difficult throughout, though honestly some aren't that hard

So, that makes a grand total of just 4 reported unsolvable levels across all the packs of the author as mentioned in reply #162 a few posts above. Not bad for someone who was infamous for releasing packs at an alarmingly quick rate, but the fact there's one unsolvable level from Lemmingshades, a pack that was released a few months after OddLems (which was released a few years after the author's last pack in this topic before I merged all of them in here) is quite fishy, since during this time it is at least expected the author took some lessons to heart from some long-time established members who have released high quality packs themselves. In particular, the advice for the pack author of properly testing the levels and making sure to make and keep a solving master replay set still holds! It goes without saying to make absolutely certain that you the author have proof in the form of a solving replay before releasing a level

Many thanks to Armani, JawaJuice, Poldderuk, and others for the help and reports on solvability of the packs! Certainly saved me a lot of time so I could simply focus on and check with Lemmingshades and Lemmings Rundown

Quote from: JawaJuice on December 08, 2025, 09:31:47 AMWouldn't it be an idea to remove the NewZip archive from the OP (containing BadLems) since LemFan's Packs contains all of the packs, including BadLems? Seems a bit redundant to have both archives on the first post, and slightly confusing.

Yes, that is a good point, but don't worry about it. There's no harm in the attachment being there