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#1
Lemmings Main / Re: Rank the Lemmings games
December 08, 2024, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: namida on December 08, 2024, 06:45:11 AMOh No! More Lemmings!
Lemmings 3D
Lemmings
PS3 Lemmings
Lemmings Revolution
Holiday Lemmings '94
Lemmings 2
Lemmings Touch
Lemmings Paintball
Lemmings 3

Lmao, poor Lemmings 3. You can tell right from the opening intro that's it's gonna be a piece of crap, and then three levels later you're hovering over every lemming on the map, looking for the darn builder.

Why'd you rank Lemmings 2 so low? I thought it was considered by many to be the gold standard of Lemmings.

Have you tried the mobile game? The challenge and mayhem levels are pretty great.

Thanks for the ranking!
#2
Quote from: namida on December 07, 2024, 07:43:30 PMI'll also point out that PS3 Lemmings and Lemmings Touch might be a bit more in line with what OP is after. Possibly even Lemmings Revolution?

Thank you! Can PS3 Lemmings and Lemmings Touch be played on PC?
#3
Quote from: WillLem on December 07, 2024, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: Brundle on December 07, 2024, 01:34:37 AMWhichever one permits it, lol.

Did you have a specific one in mind?

You may be interested in Loap. It's a clone engine based on Lemmings 3D, and the sprites look way more like the cartoon versions on the original artwork. Definitely worth a look!

For 2D Lemmings, the NeoLemmix and SuperLemmix clone engines have a maximum sprite resolution of roughly 24p. This could be doubled to 48p which would likely be plenty to achieve the more cartoonish aesthetic (EDIT: on closer investigation, the sprites in the first OP screenshot appear to be 48p exactly). Each sprite frame would have to be replaced by an equivalent frame in the larger size.

To achieve this for the full set of sprites would be a lot of drawing work (weeks or even months at a few hours a day to achieve desirable results). I imagine that there might be rendering programs/AI tools that could speed this process up in the hands of a particularly skilled graphics designer, though.

Once the graphics work is done, the entire codebase would then have to be refactored to account for the quadrupled-up resolution; Neo/SuperLemmix physics is low-res, based on a sprite size of about 12p. Inflating the low-res physics to match sprites 4 times larger would probably look a bit odd, so it would most likely be necessary to implement hi-res physics - again, weeks/months of work, depending on how many people are working on it.

In theory, though, it could absolutely be done.

Wow, a lot harder than I thought! The Lemmings in Loap look super cute, I'll try it, thanks!
#4
Quote from: WillLem on December 06, 2024, 09:36:08 PMWelcome to the Forums! :)

Thanks! I'm excited to be among Lemmings fans!
#5
Quote from: WillLem on December 06, 2024, 09:36:08 PMWelcome to the Forums! :)

Quote from: BrundleIs there any way to make the in-game lemmings look like the official artwork?

For which platform/port/engine?

Whichever one permits it, lol.
#6
Lemmings Main / Re: Rank the Lemmings games
December 07, 2024, 01:33:50 AM
Quote from: WillLem on December 06, 2024, 09:37:12 PMGood idea, by all means go ahead and suggest one to get the ball rolling.

I just got into Lemmings and from the little I've played so far, I think 2>1>mobile>3. I hope someone who has played more games in the series can make a longer list.
#7
Lemmings Main / Rank the Lemmings games
December 06, 2024, 08:36:24 PM
I can't find a Lemmings franchise ranking anywhere on the internet. Make the first ones here.