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Three of your solutions are backroutes. These are the solutions for Wild 6 , Wicked 7 and Bonus 1.
All your other solutions are  intended , or acceptable alternatives.
The following days , I will try to fix the backrouted levels , and release a new version of the pack.

As I said also on Discord  ,your solution is not   
a backroute anymore , is an acceptable variation of the intended solution. You are doing correctly all the tricks , I want to enforce. That means that you have solved my pack now with intended or acceptable alternative solutions. As for the last level , you have used the intended method. Some changes that I could do is to remove one  stacker , and add a coin at the pipe that needs to be digged insted of the bottom? (while increasing the save requirements ?). In any case that solution is not a backroute. And the level just needs some fine-tuning.

Wild 1 - The Space Outpost Nice level to start off the rank. I especially love the bomber trick to release the pre-placed disarmer. I did at first fall for the trap of platforming both sides of the gap where the disarmer is trapped in the pit with the OWWs, though :laugh: I would say that was simply jumping into the level before I managed to work everything out in my mind :XD: Nice mix of the Space tileset from L2, as well as SQRon's tileset.

Wild 2 - Butterfly Islands I love these tilesets of David's. They're really high in artistic quality, and his mastery of artistry certainly shows in his The Lemmings Have Grown pack, which I had the pleasure of LPing earlier this year. Nice open-ended level here :)

Wild 3 - Reachable Heights Modification of a level by Turrican, called Unreachable Heights, as the original was a glitch level, but since glitches are absent from NL, the solution needed to be adapted. Another open-ended level as stated from Turrican himself. This one did give me problems and I did struggled a bit longer than is actually seen in the LP, but this solution is different from the initial solution I found, where I had a lemming from above drop right on top of the blocker to release him. The rest was down to timing.

Wild 4 - Miniature Lemmings A very hard level, I thought. The level definitely got a "how in the world is this possible?" reaction from me, especially given that you only have one platformer. Certainly a nice trick with the stoner and platforming/cloning, but this is very precise in order to bridge the gap on both sides. Other than this, getting through the floating triangle structure efficiently was also very hard. My solution is a bit different from Icho's, although yours and mine are similar in many ways. I guess that's the beauty of the game, where there can still be slight variations of the solution ;) Very nice use of the tileset here, although I kind of hate how the background stuff can easily be mistaken for solid terrain, though a large part of that is due how I generally don't use CPM while LPing, as I prefer to figure things out as I go rather than take the easy way out by activating it :P

Wild 5 - Lemmings Checkers Club Nice level which was a quick solve here. I like the builder steps past the steel wall. I need to remember that the solid red is steel for this tileset. I always keep confusing it for solid terrain :XD:

Wild 6 - Outside the Control Room My favorite of the rank here. I love how multiple lemmings need to go to various areas of the level to get to the buttons. Nice use of the shimmier to get the button around the middle on the left side and then again to get him to safety.

Wild 7 - FC Lems screwed by the refs Nice builderless level to finish off the rank, although another hard one in the difficulty rating. Due to how you only have two skill types available at the start, this would perhaps be a big hint to the solution in the area. I was a dummy and kept thinking that I needed to get up by going to the far left first. Seems that the RR was purposely set so that everyone stacks on top of one another so that you only see 2 lemmings on the screen. Once you realize what the solution entails, the rest is just down to timing, and so the execution can be a bit frustrating.

Wicked 1 - Pencils Hiding my Painting Once again, nice use of Davids' tilesets. Nice trick of cancelling a basher midstroke with a walker and then building immediately upon stepping up through the ceiling in order to stop anyone from following him. This has to be done at a very specific spot so that you can still get to the paintbrush with your 3 builders available. Also I like the bashing and cloning it to send a lemming back to the crowd to release them with a miner. I've already seen this combo in a United level, so that came in handy for this level ;) This is quite difficult to see. For the end part, I kept thinking that 3 platformers aren't enough to reach the exit. Once again, I would definitely ease up the precision, as I don't understand why the gaps have to be exactly one platformer/builder length every time. At least make it clearer that the gaps can be crossed with a certain number of platformers/builders. To be fair, I didn't check with CPM that the clouds are solid terrain instead of background. Then again, I probably could had figured that out only due to how it's pretty much in the way of the exit. Overall, nice level to start off the rank, although certainly a difficult one.

Wicked 2 - Shadows in the Sky Very similar to Wild 7 in that it's a builderless level and you have to do more or less the same thing here as in the aforementioned level. The small alcove after the first tall wall can be a bit frustrating to time correctly so that the climbers can step up through the ceiling later, but at the same time the blocker can be released via a digger and cancelling with a basher. My main gripe is that I'm just not a fan of the silhouette sprites and tileset, especially since it's very difficult to tell who you're assigning a skill to, and it's impossible to tell which lemmings have a permanent skill because there's no color shift to indicate that. Colorful Arty has told me that he's thinking of making the shade a bit brighter so that it's no longer impossible to tell who has a permanent skill, although he hasn't done anything about it yet. He's not active here on the Forums these days.

Wicked 3 - The Crystal Coves Nice level, but the start with containing the crowd and only sending one on ahead with just builders is very frustrating. The builders might seem very plentiful, but they do run out much faster than one would think. Fortunately, it's possible with careful placements to finish with leftover, as seen in both Icho's and Turrican's solutions. Mine happens to use all the builders. Here, it's absolutely necessary to know about the trick of getting builders to turn if the RR is high enough. The way to do this is to build and then have the second one build just as he steps off the first builder's first brick. The head check triggers, interrupting the second builder after one builder brick.

I've had an attempt at the Superlemmini version of the level some time ago, though that time I couldn't get it solved because I got very frustrated in getting the execution down. Now that I know the solution to the NL version, I will certainly give it another try, and it might not take as long.

Wicked 4 - FC Lems screwed by the refs -VAR edition Almost a repeat of Wild 7, except there are now traps on the far left. I think there is also a change in the skillset as well, but I'm not sure. Only slightly harder, but not by much. I would certainly say the hardest part is making a turn around point in the middle area. Once you achieve that and make sure that everyone can proceed to the right, the rest of the solution is pretty much the same as Wild 7.

Wicked 5 - To the Stargate! Hard level, especially the start with keeping everyone safe. It took me a while to figure out how to get the pickups along the wall. I kept trying so hard to get everyone on the platform where the first button is, when in actuality you just need to get one up there. I don't think I ever knew that you need two platformers in a fencer tunnel in order to bash all the way across successfully. I've checked the intended solution after solving, and honestly I don't know if I ever would had been able to come up with that, especially with keeping a fencer going with a stoner(s). Then again, I believe there is a level in one of the Lemmings Plus packs where this will be required, although the nice thing is that it's the only thing that's required in the level. It's simply all about getting the execution correct. However, in this level there's way more things needed here, and as it's very difficult to pull off, honestly I think you should allow my solution to slide despite it being a backroute. Basically, namida's level is a good example of why one shouldn't make levels requiring it, because fencers get interrupted very easily on even ground.

Wicked 6 - Dockside Warehouse I've already played this level when LOTY 2020 happened earlier this year. Hard level, mostly due to how I tend to be very bad with using stackers to solve levels. Here, I decided to manually recreate the solution by hand, as although I have a replay for when I solved it back in April, I don't think it will work here. I did notice a stacker was taken away, and you already explained that it was due to a backroute you found.

Wicked 7 - Airborne Rodents Nice level to finish off the rank, but a very hard one. The sheer size does make it look intimidating, but it's not as bad as it appears. Certainly the hardest part is working out what needs to happen while at the same time making sure you don't lose too many, which I sometimes ran into. I often had a lot of doubts about whether I was doing the level correctly. The biggest annoyance was how a lot of the gaps were off by a pixel. I checked yours and Icho's solutions after I solved it, and mine is nowhere like either. However, it still ends up using all of the skills, and I guess I overcomplicated the solution. Even then, since mine is just as hard or even a bit slightly, I say my solution should be allowed to slide as well. It's not too far enough from the intended solution, save for the area near the exit, where I simply avoided losses to the traps :P

Bonus 1 - Excavations in the Cubic Cave Nice short and somewhat easy level. I was a dummy and didn't realize how to properly think of saving one of the blockers. I kept thinking to block on the builder staircase to the left of the partial OWW, when in fact it should had dawned on me that it needs to happen on the other side of it :XD: Wow, talk about me overthinking simple stuff like that

miners can cancel each other out, but to do so is extremely difficult, as you need to place both miners at the right spot and time.