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All must scale the mountain! -Save all Lemmings in Twitchy 11
Walk through the LKG! -Clear Perky 9 with only Walkers

I've noticed a few things you did that were unintended and that I'll have to fix, and a couple of things that were unintended but cool enough that I'll just let them slide (such as clearing 'Don't get greedy' without blockers or the interesting trick you pulled off in 'Operation: Super Rescue' to get the super lemming separated from the group. There's an easier way to do that ;)).

Look at them shimmy (Calm 18): Very nice level, but far harder than its position, because there are a lot of wrong approaches: Bash to the left and then platform to the left to free the right lemming. Or turning the wrong lemming into a climber. Or...
Pickup sticks (Calm 19): Excellent pick-up skill level :thumbsup::thumbsup:. But it uses a swimmer, before their intro level comes around...
A chillling breeze (Perky 2): Very nice level idea, but if one bashes one or two pixels too early, the lemming gets stoned too high.
Freeze Frame (Perky 7): Nice idea, but at first I wondered why no other lemming appears in the hatch and then feared that you set the number of lemming incorrectly and the level is impossible. Perhaps start the level at the bottom, so that the player sees the preplaced lemmings vanishing?
Express air-evator (Perky 8): Nice idea, but the digger position is rather precise. If one digs too early or too late the lemmings walk back towards the left again.
Two for the price of one (Perky 11): Good use of the radiation object, even though I only used one side of the level.
Gone for a dip (Perky 12): One of the harder Perky levels, because there are a lot of possibilities to contain the crowd, some only fail by a few frames.
To those who wait (Perky 13): I am not a fan of this one, as the solution is way too fiddly.
Don't get greedy (Perky 14): I got greedy and saved all lemmings. :P
If only they could dig (Twitchy 5): One has to be somewhat lucky, because on my first try noone entered the hatch. Only after I placed a blocker within the containment gap, I was able to succeed.
To each his own... (Twitchy 10): ...or all together in the same exit. ;P
Do you feel a draft? (Twitchy 11): Amazing idea!
Operation: Super Rescue (Twitchy 18): Not my favorite, because the skills don't fit at their positions, which makes the level rather fiddly and unsatisfactory.
Dangit Harold (Hyper 1): If this is intended, then this is a rather huge trolling level.
The joke is on you (Hyper 2): Very nice level, that has a lot of possible approaches.
Thou dost ask too much! (Hyper 4): Excellent level! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
United we stand (Hyper 5): One of the hardest levels in the pack.
Catch 22 (Hyper 6): I would like to have one more cloner. Currently using only two cloners to catch all four lemming paths is possible, but requires precision.
Diving for treasure (Hyper 7): ...and then being killed by hidden traps! Not nice.
Palace of winds (Hyper 10): Nice level, but getting a gap to the updrafts below the exit small enough, so that the gliders don't exit right away was the main problem.

"Dangit Harold!" - Nice level, but there's a backroute in it where you can build a little bit at the beginning, mine, and that will cause the lemming to turn around to the exit after hitting the metal floor with his pickax. I attached that replay along with the intended solution.

"The Joke's On You" - Nice level with many different solutions.

"Hero's Sidekick" - This one was tough, but once you figured out what had to be used where the solution became clear.

"Thou Dost Ask Too Much" - Another tough one where not a lot of beginners would immediately know to use the blocker to block the trigger area of the radiation object so the crowd and climber wouldn't get hit.

"United We Stand" - Very good level! This is another one that was tough until I figured out that trick at the beginning with the cloner and stacker.

"Catch 22" - A bit precise, but still a good puzzle as not many beginners would know to stretch that one builder to make four splatforms with cloners (and I like how earlier levels taught you that you can do that).

"Diving For Treasure" - Excellent level (I saved 100% 8-)). I disagree about the traps being hidden. You can see the pink tentacles on top of the narrow cave the swimmer goes through after collecting the digger pickup. It may not be obvious but I don't think it's a big deal.

"Waterlogged Woods" - This is the hardest level of the pack in my personal opinion. Took me the longest to solve :XD:. I just couldn't for the life of me figure out what had to be done, but once I did figure it out the solution made perfect sense. Excellent level!

"Timed Triangle Trial" - Not as tough as the previous level but still another tough and good level.

"Palace Of Winds" - Loved this Minish Cap temple themed level. I rank this one the second hardest level as figuring out the solution took multiple attempts at all types of crazy solutions until the intended one emerged, especially figuring out how to get the gliders to glide up to the exit instead of coming back into the tunnel I created into the updrafts.

Hyper 10 - Already got this one during my normal playthrough.

Calm 15 - I'm still working on this one.

Perky 7 - I didn't use any diggers or miners but I still didn't get the talisman. I included a reply of this level to check to see if I did it wrong or if it's the actual talisman ???

Perky 12 - I completed this level in under one minute instead of the 2:30 the challenge wanted and I still didn't get the talisman. I'm I doing the right one? Perky 12 is the Gone For A Dip level.

Sewer Rodents. Is it really intended that you can just build over the entire pool of water and fence towards the exit (see my replay in case it isn't clear what I'm referring to)? In my first solution, I sent a swimmer ahead, past the crocodiles, to build a bridge across the last gap, then sent a second lemming over the top and dug at the end. So I needed the bridge to be there first for the lemmings passing through the digger hole to fall upon, otherwise they would have drowned. But on my second playthrough, I found out it is equally possible to just fence through on the right side without reaching splat height next to the exit. In that solution, which is the one in my replay, I thereby just bypassed all the crocodiles, which felt like a backroute.
Super Mecha Death Gators. Couldn't solve this one. The low saving requirement made it appear like one has to use a high release rate and sacrifice some lemmings, but since each crocodile is a multi-trap, a single one of them can snatch all lemmings even at release rate 99. I also considered creating a route over the "Strato was here" letters, but the skills don't seem to suffice for that :) .
Serve with a smile. Really cool idea, there's just a bit of pixel-precision involved with making sure neither of the platformers nor the builder turns around.
If only they could dig. I get the premise that digging shouldn't be possible, but getting inside a chamber of terrain without any destructive skills at all, without access by water or through a teleporter just leaves me guessing on how this is supposed to work.

Pickup sticks. Great level, this one had me thinking for a while without ever seeming unsolveable and thereby demotivating at any time! :D
Express air-evator. This is the kind of pixel precision I would avoid, because even after trying several different places with the digger, the lack of success made me believe my solution was actually wrong, when I probably just would have needed a couple more pixels to the middle. I'd suggest you just make the pickup skills on the left 2-3 diggers instead of a single one. The focus of the level according to title and instruction is on the updraft and the gliders anyway, not on getting the single last digger exactly right ;) .
To those who wait. Like Wafflemm, I had figured out a solution to the level long before the final athlete came out, went into fast-forward mode, and wondered why I lost the level ^^. This is the same punishment principle I used on "The Lempire strikes back" where the zombies actually do become dangerous in the end. I believe that lemming is an athlete by virtue of being a climber and a disarmer, so it could actually fulfil a purpose in this level, rather than being a mere troll move towards the ending. So, if you want people to actually use that late athlete lemming, perhaps you should decrease the total number of lemmings so the player can notice the athlete earlier, while still building the path. As both Wafflemm and I experienced it, that single athlete easily gets lost in the crowd, thereby not actually being useful to the level, but only ruining it in the last seconds for a player who has actually already figured out a fair and fine solution.
Hero's excavation. That was a nice one! ;)
Look at them shimmy! Arrgh, so obvious, hiding in plain sight! :D Judging from the feedback you've been receiving so far, I believe this one could still go a rank higher.
Tricky triangles. I like the general concept of these levels, however in the second iteration (the "reverse" version, "Taxing triangles"), on that largest triangle there's a point which looks as if it were solid terrain, yet the lemming falls through it from above. While a player should know it's possible to slip through thin terrain lines from below, this drop was totally unexpected. Luckily, there's the basher to get out of that pit again, but still it was really confusing.
Super Mecha Death Gators. And that's another one I needed Wafflemm's stream for. With your hint, I had figured out I would have to mesh the lemmings together between to blockers, but then I focused so much on doing this that I ran out of blockers and had no idea what to do with the builders, who always bump their head on the pipe above the first crocodile. Of course, building over them was the very first thing I tried. But putting puzzlepiece A + B together somehow didn't work for me :D .
If only they could dig. Okay, now I know the nuclear option is always on the table :D . Can lemmings doing the bomber animation actually survive lethal falls, like in Lemmings Revolution where there's one level where you have to use that trick? At least it eemed to be the case while playing this level. Normally, this problem doesn't occur in NeoLemmix, because while in the air, regular bombers explode right away without the oh-no, and there is no option of timing them exactly to explode when they hit the ground, in order for them to do the oh-no-animation - because there are no countdowns. With the nuke however, the countdown is still there. And I still couldn't figure out why the nuke doesn't kill all lemmings at once, but rather in such an arbitrary sequence.
A fair trade. Yeah, that was a bit annoying. I actually preferred the "make the miner go through"-trick from a later level, since I like to do the same thing with fencers. But doing this for a basher is a lot easier, since stackers can be placed so easily - thus, this causes a lot of clicking which is in the end kind of pointless ;) .
Sewage shaft. This also gets tedious pretty fast. I love using water lifts, and once I forced myself to use them rather than trying to build stoner staircases, it saved me a lot of skills, which made the level more interesting again. Still, about halfway to the top the player effectively knows the drill and it gets old, and there are still a couple of stoner staircases required here and there (which aren't much better than stacker stairs ^^). I didn't even platform over that last gap, because the crocodile's trigger was so far out to the left that I had to use a bunch of stoners anyway, so I just stoned all the way over the entire thing rather than sending another lemming down there. And although 55 stoners is not even over-generous for this level, I think our rough guideline as far as builders are concerned (15-20) also make sense for other skills - especially for those which create only such tiny steps :P .
To each his own. Another common level title :D - and I, too, used the same exit for some lemmings, namely the floater and the glider.
Mount Lemmerest. Not super-annoying, but mainly an exercise in economical use of builders - which often minds "rewind the entire level" if you're a single builder short to victory, because that can mean having to replan the entire route. The difference to the other puzzles is that this route only consists of going up, and ocassionally around the protruding edges of the unfavourably shaped mountain. So I ended up bashing through the entire thing and used a bomber to get through the one-way terrain on the right. I still had to send a lemming over there, though, to blast through the tree from the top rather than from the bottom.
Me, myself and lem. At first, the lemming on the left always was a couple of frames short hitting the button, so I'd always lose the climber on the right to the fire trap. The solution was once again to prevent both lemmings from turning around after they were done clone-building.
Trigger finger. Great level!
Getting there's half the fun. Took some time, but never seemed unsolveable, good job!
Frozen factory. Quite a bit of mining and building around just to collect three platformers, but I guess it's all about efficient resource use again.
Operation: Super rescue. Neat! Here we can see how easily the Purple tileset hides its traps, though. You will face that in Pit Lems as well, unfortunately ;) .
Dangit Harold!. This is a funny idea, although there was not much puzzling going on. Rather a lot of precise clicking and rewinding to make sure "Harold" bumps his head at the right places without running into traps, fire, or an abyss. I'd say we should refer to these single-lem up and down-challenges as "Mario levels" :D .
Take me to the future. This was a lot of back and forth. If all of that action was intended, this one is a true masterpiece! :D
The joke's on you. This one was just great! I've been on the verge of solving it for a very long time and always was one walker or blocker short. When I did solve it in the end however, I didn't have to use the basher or blocker at all, which felt kind of backroute-ish. Hence, I actually found my approaches which didn't work more interesting :D . Like sending a floater down the first pillar, turning him around right away and having him climb, while a faller from above gets blown up to create a hole, in which the climber can slip, turn around and build a (s)platform from there, just in time to save the next lemming falling down. Yet, all that nice action isn't necessary because currently, a single bomber at the top suffices to reduce the height of the pillar below splat height - I don't know whether that's intended?
Thou dost ask to much. This is another level where I would have preferred my non-successful approaches to be the intended solution, but each of them would have required another miner. Now I simply went over the top of the level. Also, I just bypassed the radiation completely as if it were a trap, rather than having to use it in some creative way. But perhaps I'm indeed "asking too much" here... :P
Diving for treasure. Bombing to set the swimmer free, then blocking there, then setting the blocker free. Nice to have to keep all this in mind! :)
Water-logged woods. This one was real tough, but boy it felt good when I finally found the place where the crowd could do the last basher! :) Great re-run!

One example being "Hey you, stop that". I could compress the lemmings and free all the blockers, but I'm having trouble compressing the lemmings a second time, or, to be precise, to get them out of the compression again without bashing my way into doom or separating the lemmings too far again by using the platformer.
Also the "cat and the fiddle" level keeps me guessing. I'm pretty sure I put all the skills exactly where they need to go, there doesn't seem to be any other option. Yet the cat doesn't seem to be constant in its killing pattern. Sometimes it snatches more lemmings away, sometimes less. There is no constant distance between the remaining lemmings headed for the teleporter, despite keeping the release rate constant.
If that's a special version of your cattrap, a "troll version", fittingly, with some kind of random element about it, kudos for the programming work... ;) But actually there's a nice puzzle here which for me seems to get wasted by the release rate madness.

Calm 18 - Tick-Tock Lemmings Nice radiation introduction level! :thumbsup: These objects I didn't mind at all, and seeing them again after so long kind of got me missing them :(

Calm 19 - A chilling breeze Introduces the slowfreeze object, which is very similar to radiation, except it turns the lemming into a stoner instead of a bomber after the countdown finishes. This one is also a bit harder than the previous level, although not by much. Here, it's absolutely critical that as soon as the lemming gets into the second pit on either side that they bash once they're facing the right direction, as otherwise they won't stone in the right place to get everyone down safely.

Perky 5 - Two for the price of one Nice and short radiation level, I especially love the trick of cloning a lemming that got the countdown after building to reach the radiation

Perky 20 - Super Mecha Death Gators For such a simple looking level with a very minimal skillset, very hard level and the one that I was stuck on the longest out of any other level in the pack. By this, I was stuck here for several months. For very good reason, as the traps are 3-in-1, one of which is the very fast chameleon trap from the Rock tileset of ONML. I thought the solution would be very fiddly and relied so much on luck, but it actually turns out I simply went about the level the wrong way. Instead, it's much simpler than I thought, which requires compressing the crowd between the builder wall and blocker. The rest will follow from that. Very nice level, and was satisfying to have figured out and solved on my own :P

Perky 21 - Tailor made for someone Nice special graphics level. Very easy one to boot after the previous one which is quite hard.

Twitchy 6 - Do you feel a draft? Nice slowfreeze puzzle which can be somewhat tricky, but here I used repeated cancelling of a platformer so that the stoners would be in the right place ;)

Hyper 3 - Thou dost ask too much! Unlike the New Formats version, this one uses the radiation object. Very nice trick of blocking right next to it so that lemmings from either side don't trigger it and receive a countdown. The rest of the solution is the same as the New Formats version, except that you also have to wait for the preplaced lemming to turn back to the left and then you can release the blocker with a walker.

Troll 4 - Hey you, stop that Same as the New Formats version, except this one seems harder on Old Formats. The solution is very different, as the lemmings don't start bunching up behind one another until after more time has passed. Other than this, I pretty much used the same solution. Once again, I still don't see the trolling element of the level ???