I have not seen yet a poll for this, maybe it has been done I dunno. But I was wondering cos I ... well, I wonder a lot. Also trying to make a good level pack for Cheapo Lemmings, but I want to know what the people like.
The Olympics set seems to be the most used in Lemmings One. And the Cold hard Crystal set is the least used.
I was thinking of ignoring the Olympics set entirely, because it is BORING! But I'll see what people think first.
My favourite is the Goin' Down To Hell style. The Devil Exit is so cool! I like the SMS version the best. But ugh have you seen the Macintosh version of the Exit? It looks like the Devils horns were cut off, and he acquired buck teeth and specs: it's a Nerdy Devil! UGH!
I chose The Olympics, Big Blue Balls, and Special Graphics themes
My overall favourite the yellow olympics theme (My first lemedit levelpak contains five such levels ). My favourite Oh No! theme is the Balls, (seen a few times in my cheapo packs) I've never been too keen on Oh No! More Lemmings though. And the special graphics themes are always interesting.
Oh, and you forgot the snow graphics in your poll
You missed out Oh No! Snow!
I chose Hell, Pink and Balls. I love these three because they have the perfect mixture of straight and rocky pieces; Dirt, Rock and Snow don't have enough straight pieces, while Brick has too many. (However, I try to use the styles more or less evenly in my levels, and some of my favourite levels do use the styles I don't like so much -- my best level yet, Zorn's Lemming, uses Brick, for instance.)
The Hell set is the most used in the PC Lemmings game. In the Mac version, because 21 Tricky is "Going Their Separate Ways" instead of "All the Sixes", the Hell and Pink sets come first equal. No Lemmings style, however, is used nearly as much as Brick in ONML, in spite of the fact that ONML has twenty fewer levels.
On a side note, it's interesting to see the different names people come up with for the styles. The style from "Only floaters can survive this" is often called Columns, Sand or Roman, but I've never heard it called Olympic before. I can't really see the connection, unless it's the "Olympic Rings" seen in the level "Like an overflowing wave"......
The Olympics??? :???: I'm sorry, that is the most non-sensical name ever for the "columns" graphics set. Nothing in it whatsoever suggests "Olympics" or even "sports" to me. O_o
I think I find myself liking "Bricks" the most, visually speaking. Other than that I don't think I have a clear preference, though of course the special graphics are neat too.
I think generally the ONML graphics are, color-wise, more varied and somewhat brighter, while the original Lemmings graphics tend to be more subdued/subtle, with some graphics sets based almostly entirely on a single color type for the terrain. I generally like the ONML-style graphics a little better, but I can see other people feel otherwise.
HAHA I love the names you gave them! But definitely "Goin' down to Hell" and "Cold hard crystals" would be my favourites...
Quote from: Conway link=1122593013/0#2 date=1122595283You missed out Oh No! Snow!
and "Merry Christmas, Mr Lemming" (although they are pretty similar...)
changed the poll. results are screwy cos theres a vote in the wrong place. doesnt matter cos its MY poll hehehe
and its interesting (at the time of post) that Going down to Hell is most popular. its my fave too! :D except the mac version of course
and its called "olympics" cos the style remins me of sparta for some reason, which links to greece, which is where the olympics was held... if my history is wrong DONT COMMENT! lets live in a fantasy bubble for a while
ciao
and someone know why the mac devil head looks so dumb? TELL ME! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! &#A0;>:(
Alright, I think you're getting a little too hyper over there. O_o :-/
You might as well just delete the poll. The discussion is more interesting than a poll that you're going to keep changing because "the votes look screwy". ;P
I vote (in order of preference) Bricks, Pink, and Hell. That order.
The Brick style is the perfect style for my design process. All kinds of straight angle pieces, Yet enough variety to still make the level aesthetically pleasing.
The Pink style is probably the most versatile style for design, with the most different kind of pieces. It has large pillars, small stones, flat walls, and even bumpy pieces I never use.
The Hell style is in the same vein as the Pink style, although the thing putting the Pink style ahead of this one is that the Hell style has no "non-constant" traps. That is, there's no traps that only kill one lemming if a tightly packed group runs into it. The Pink style has the compressor thing, but the Hell style only has "constant" fire traps.
To guest..
SHUT UP ! It's my poll! Hehe just messin'
The discussion is good, but it still only compliments the poll. I made this for the poll, not the chat. But the chat is interesting.
QuoteI have not seen yet a poll for this, maybe it has been done I dunno.
http://eng-forum.lemmingswelt.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=1092444469
(It was on page 4, but still...)
Bricks, Columns, Pink.
Bricks are my absolute favourite 'cause all pieces are straight.
I simply can work better that way.
Columns (I use to call it "Classic style", cause in L2 on the map for tribe "classic" there's a lot of terrain of the colums style) and Pink similar reason, and the colour is quite nice.
In cheapo, I don't like the columns style so much, and the pink style even less.
But there is another style I really like as nice substitute.
The special levels are really interesting, but I think if I'd get to see lots of those, I'd think a little different.
It was the same case with the crystal style: when I played the original levels, I really looked forward to those levels, now there are much more of this style, and I don't like it as much as I did at the beginning.
Hell, Pink and Bricks. These are the ones that I enjoy the most! :D
Heh sorry Shvegait for making a duplicate thingy.
Keep those comments coming!
By the by, has anyone made the Original Graphics sets for Cheapo? I notice Cheapo has got the Original "Diggin' through Dirt" style in there somewhere. But the other styles aren't there.
No offence at all to the Cheapo styles, but they're a TAD dark. And the Cheapo Dirt style reminds me of A BEAST of a Level! style. That has to be the most boring graphics set after Pink <I prefer the SMS version, which is actually grey, not Pink>.
Quote from: JasonXV link=1122593013/0#14 date=1122954791By the by, has anyone made the Original Graphics sets for Cheapo? I notice Cheapo has got the Original "Diggin' through Dirt" style in there somewhere. But the other styles aren't there.
Yes, I have. All five original styles plus the extended graphics (Tricky 14, Taxing 15, Mayhem 22). And as a bonus, the Yellow Dirt style from the Genesis/Megadrive version.
They're not quite ready for release yet -- but you can download pre-release versions of the Pink style at http://www.geocities.com/zarathustra47/Twenty.zip and the Blue style at http://www.geocities.com/zarathustra47/Collaboration.zip . If you're really desperate, I guess I could let you have the others..... though I hadn't planned to give them to anyone until they were ready for full release......
QuoteThe Hell style is in the same vein as the Pink style, although the thing putting the Pink style ahead of this one is that the Hell style has no "non-constant" traps.
Ah, but I'm adding a few traps of my own devising to my styles. There will be a "kill one lemming" trap in the Hell style.
COOLIES!
On another note, does anyone have any of the following done for Cheapo Lemmings?
SMS - All the themes, complete
SNES - Pink mainly, cos the colour is not as pink, but sorta blander
SPECIAL - A BEAST of a level, MENACE!, What an AWESOME level!, A BEAST II of a level
Adam remade the SMS styles; I don't know if he still has them. I have them on my computer at home, if you're OK about waiting a couple of months.
I've sent you my Extended style, which contains the Menacing, Awesome and BeastII graphics. I left Beast out, because the level is pretty much impossible to divide into separate bits, and it would be far too much work to redraw the tops of all the trees that go off screen -- just one on the BeastII style was hard enough!
Quote from: JasonXV link=1122593013/15#16 date=1123201390On another note, does anyone have any of the following done for Cheapo Lemmings?
SMS - All the themes, complete
I remember Adam mentioned working on it a long while ago. Don't remember if it is ever completed or released.
QuoteSNES - Pink mainly, cos the colour is not as pink, but sorta blander
Wow, picky one here, aren't you? ;P (I personally didn't remember that difference, but that's just me I guess)
I suppose if you're really desperate, maybe you can beg Ahribar to make a modifed version of his Pink Style that mutes the colors accordingly, assuming he has a decent enough graphics editing program that supports color adjustments (Photoshop for example). Though honestly I think half the people on the planet would wonder why there are 2 "identical" versions of the same style if he did this.
QuoteSPECIAL - A BEAST of a level, MENACE!, What an AWESOME level!, A BEAST II of a level
I think Ahribar has planned to cover this. Unfortunately, not the first BEAST though, because if I remember correctly, he said the trees are too clumped together to separate out, so you might as well just screen capture the entire level's terrain and paste it in your own level, which kinda defeats the purpose of styles in general.
whoops, posted at same time, except 5 minutes apart because I'm just that much wordier. ;P
Yes.... my girlfriend has Photoshop, so I could make the SNES Pink style, if I could find a good level image to work from. (The SNES images on Planet Lemmings, annoying, don't seem to like being opened in a separate window.)
As for "two identical versions of the same style", I already did two dirt styles -- but then, the Genesis dirt style really does have a completely different look and feel to the regular one, I think it was worth it.
Quote from: Ahribar link=1122593013/15#20 date=1123205269Yes.... my girlfriend has Photoshop, so I could make the SNES Pink style, if I could find a good level image to work from. (The SNES images on Planet Lemmings, annoying, don't seem to like being opened in a separate window.)
You can still right-click on them to get a URL. Turns out to be of the form:
http://www.deveria.com/alexis/lemmings/lemmings/snes/sun05.png
Note that only the SNES Sunsoft levels have unique pictures; the ones for the other ratings are the same pics used for the Amiga/PC/Mac/(etc.) pages. I also cannot actually vouch that the pics there are really from the SNES as opposed to the Genesis or something, but maybe you can tell.
Thanks; I got there in the end though. And indeed the graphics and objects for the SNES Pink style are ready now; but I'd need to work on the standards and images before I was ready to release it as a style.
The SNES Sunsoft images are definitely not from the Genesis/Megadrive version; the Genesis pink style looks pretty much the same as the Amiga/Mac one (i.e. pink), not brown as it does on the SNES. So I'd say those are probably authentic images. :D
wow cool i made a themes request line now O.o
My favourite kind of levels are the pink graphics,red brick graphics and the crystal graphics.
Then you are not going to like my first pack...
why is that
I was talking to JM, I meant that there are no levels that use those styles he mentioned in my first Lemedit pack.
i know you were talking to JM, i wondered.
and now i laughed.
:P
JasonXV
I'm not really sure to be honest, I like a variety myself, and I do not dislike any of them, although I feel the hell one is a little overused. If I had to choose though, it would be either the fossil or the olympics one.